What happened to D.S from Siemens @ Tarrytown ?

just like the day never understands the darkness of the night.

No one here works for Siemens. Those people left a long time ago.

There are those who work for Siemens, but it sounds like very few work at Siemens. Nothing there seems to be getting done.

if you guys are so smart, why are you working for Siemens?

Yes, you are right.

"........how our President had lied about WMD. Ain't that a kick in the head?"

I know you will see it 180 degrees from myself, but the above quotes baffle me so much, that it actually saddens me. So the president of the US knows there are no WMD in Iraq and lies about it just so he can go in with the entire US military to nail a bad guy he does not like (after all he threatened his daddy, right?). Just to think that you liberals ( yes, I am going to hang this derogatory label on you because you earned it) would process the info and believe this nonsense is downright scary. Try putting yourself in W.'s shoes; the ENTIRE world is watching very carefully and is against what you are proposing to do (invade Iraq), so you say WTF and lie about the WMD to qualify going into the war effort............I know you think W. is dumb, so you accept that he is too stupid to look a short distance down the road and think OK, we are in and Saddam is dead...........now what do we do about the lying about the WMD? Oh, just ignore it and the world will just forget about it!!?? Boy, you guys must think that W. was dumber that a chimpanzee.

The truth was, Hilary, Daschle, Kerry, Reid, etc., etc. (a bunch of liberal Dem's) all voted for the war effort. Why? because they too believed the faulty CIA data, and did not want to be on the losing side politically if Bush became a hero for getting control of the WMD. Remember this was fresh off of his Afghanistan triumph. So Bush, the CIA, the voting Dem's and everyone else was wrong about Iraq having WMD's, but lying????? No, it could not be further from the truth..........just ask your Democratic heroes why the voted for the war effort at that time. They will tell you they believed Iraq had them. I know you will say that Bush cooked the data to get what he wanted.............really?? So that means he not only lied but used treason-ish means to get there with no plan to figure out what was going to happen when the truth came out?? That is just plain idiot talk. How you guys process information "logically" is just fascinating.

The economy nonsense will have to wait for another post..............it's far more complicated than just saying Bush was in office, so that is why the crisis happened...............

I did very well in both bubble. Unlike you, I don't follow any herd, left, right or otherwise. I think for myself. I analyze carefully. I also look at how the stock market did in the first 8 years of the millenium under Bush and how it has done under Obama. Under which President would most Americans have preferred to have been invested in stocks? Only two possible answers: Bush or Obama. No explanations, no excuses, none of the right wing BS. Just the SIMPLE facts. The market from Jan. 2001 to Jan 2009, or the market since 2009. This is just another example of why one can't just talk about 'you liberals' and try to pin a label on me. One cannot label an independent thinker or mind. You've been trying it for years and keep failing.

Why not talk about the herd mentality that arose after the Gulf of Tonkin incident that LBJ (on the left) or the shrill screaming about Iraq from the Bush (on the right) before the invasion.

Now tell me. What was it exactly that America gained from either war? 50,000 plus dead in Viet Nam and 4000 plus dead in Iraq (more than died on 9/11). And the benefit to Americans was ????

And what will really blow your mind is that I opposed Viet Nam from the start, yet initially supported the war in Iraq until we all found out how our President had lied about WMD.

Ain't that a kick in the head?

Yes, it's very simple math.......... very, very basic stuff at least for me, but that cluttered and busy mind of the wrong headed liberal always gets things wrong. Don't you see that you are actually verifying my point here? You look at some very basic numbers and come up with a completely wrong headed deduction.

I'll give you a couple of well documented instances where very smart, well informed people got stuck with abhorrent decisions............all of which smart conservative thinking made us in the "wise" camp decide very differently and we avoided these recent traps.

In 1999 all the young "smart investors" said the market dynamics were different this time with the tech bubble......that 200:1 P/E ratios didn't matter...........turns out of course that it did. I avoided huge losses by bailing before it got too crazy.

In 2005 every "smart investor" said that RE had never gone down in value, because nobody had figured out a way to make more land, so houses would continue to inflate till the average value reached $500-1 million in the USA.........I actually read this several times. I started dumping properties in 2005 figuring it was once again easy to see that the simple math numbers of the cost to salary equation for RE prices made no sense. I made a ton of money.

So how did you do in those two gigantic bubbles Mr. Smart Stuff? My guess is that you got caught a bit in the turmoil because you never process numbers correctly......or am I wrong?

This is why I write here, not because I want to prove myself so much wiser than you Mr. liberal, I already know I am. I want you young people to make wiser decisions so the younger ones in my family and everyone else can have a more secure future. And trust me, electing liberal, free spending clueless Obama types is not good for you in the long run. It may take several decades for all the damage Obama has done to manifest itself, so I am not afraid for my future, it is the young ones that I really worry about.

What else would we expect from you than SIMPLE arithmetic or SIMPLE anything else?

I've often suspected your name is Simon and not Simon Templar.

Roger and out.

(You should be old enough to get that one too; in fact you're certainly 'moore' than old enough).

Well whattaUknow, looks like a bunch of you guy's were going at it pretty good since I last dropped by. I'm the Buick guy and my last post (3/13/2013) was about the fantastic lifetime gift tax exemption, allowed by the Dem's who passed the fiscal cliff package and who are in control of Washington right now. So Mr. Liberal, all the postings in between are from my fellow conservatives "having my back" so to speak.........at least the postings that go against everything you libs believe in.

It's been a very, very busy time for me recently as I have a lot of business to take care of, and I must re-iterate what a fantastic, fortunate opportunity it has become for me, for you young guy's to have elected this president at this precise moment in history. I am so, very fortunate that we conservatives lost the executive branch election this go round, so thank you guys! You see, even us old grumpy conservatives can see the good in a very liberal Democratic president when it benefits us so mightily. You defend, brag, excuse, glorify and put up on a pedestal this "great" leader, and OK for once I'll give it too you. Still doesn't mean I would have voted otherwise if I knew what was going to transpire, because I would still vote my conscience, and always have. So I just want to thank you guy's for forcing the Democrats upon us wealthier old guys because it was for our own good. Too bad it is going to be worse for you younger guy's but I will have no guilt because I voted my conscience.

By the way, the deficit quoted by the president does not include Medical, Medicaid, public sector pension, or SS obligations. If these were to be included, the deficit figures would not be approx. $20 trillion by the end of Obama's tenure but more like $100-200+ trillion by the best estimates from qualified economists..........go look it up. Still think we are not headed off a cliff? Maybe not in my lifetime, thank god, but sooner or later we will go off the end. It's simple arithmetic.

OK. That makes sense. You should run for office.

To whoever oppose death penalty, please put a tag on your back "if you commit crime on me or my family, You will not be charged with death penalty"

Then it's fair to people sho support death penalty.

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-Brutus Lynch

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high school

OK. I just signed up for weight watchers.

Lighten up guy ...

Hopeless
Useless

Women belong in the kitchen and bedroom.

Of course, I'm the boss in my house -- and I have my wife's permission to say so!
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Congratulations. You have just reached a new plateau when it comes to stereotyping people. The possibility of any variation within a group does not seem to occur to you and people with that kind of mentality should not be running governments.

"We want equality between sex, and don't want to be treated as objects. To do so, we will show our tits!"
Logic level: woman

Ignoring the ignorant 'socialism' label, it does seem to me that Americans are the most intolerant of systems that other cultures have developed, and are often quite free to change if they wanted to imitate America, but have chosen what they have and have made their system work for them. Yes, you can point to Greece, Italy, Spain, and now Cyprus (if you can find it on a map), and they can point at Detroit and Stockton and a fairly dysfunctional national government but those are diversions from the fact that many countries have somewhat different ways of governing that work well for them. Given the diversity in cultures among nations, it is somewhat arrogant to believe that one and only one system works best for everyone. Such attitudes also happen to violate the Ten Commandments as well.

oh and Euro socialism works so well!! lol

You make some valid points, but you seem to not recognize American contribution to technology that goes back over 200 years. We could start with Benjamin Franklin and his observations on energy, development of the Franklin stove, and bifocal eyeglasses, all of which would be considered technological advances in his day. Move on to Eli Whitney who not only invented the cotton gin, but developed the concept of interchangeable parts. I can move on to the invention of the telegraph, telephone, the light bulb and many other Thomas Edison inventions. Add in more modern advances such as home appliances, the Ford assembly line, television, much of computers, the internet, did I forget people like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs, companies like Intel. Even in the diagnostics business I could list inventors like Arnold Beckman, Leonard Skeggs, Wally Coulter, etc. (Look them up if you don't know who they are).

I would submit to you that America has more than its share of technological invention and development. Remember that it takes both to accomplish a true advance (think beta-Max as a technology that never made it ... or 8-track tape players). Much of what makes America great is its free wheeling, think out of the box, individualistic culture which is a magnificent incubator for innovation. Unfortunately, to some extent, it is this same mentality that causes much of our internal conflict and inability to solve our problems until we reach a crisis, in which case, we have historically done very well and, often led the world.

America is going through some difficult times both economically and in terms of getting along with one another. However, despite our problems it would be an huge mistake to underestimate our resilience and ability to innovate. America is truly the poster child for the old adage that necessity is the mother of invention.

Not trying to insult you, but the United States never was the world leader in tech innovation, that is just something you heard to many times by people that didn't know anything outside of the USA.
At the end of WWII, you as a country took a leap forward of something like 10 to 15 years and that is something the modern US tech is based on and that tech came from Germany.
I stayed once in Minnesota USA for a while and when I arrived, I thought I was in a developing nation, not the country I thought I was.
You as a nation are years behind and the main reason is greed, everything you do is motivated by profit, not the betterment of mankind, even your healthcare is a business.

Sorry. You will just have to have some patience. Even should the worst happen, you misunderestimate the resiliance of Americans and the American system. It has always operated best when faced with real challenges. It rarely responds to threats of disaster, but responses quite well when disasters occur. And since we've been hearing predictions of disaster since like forever, I'm not too worried. I'm well invested in companies that manufacture ulcer medications.

can't wait until the s hits the fan in the US

Rule Number 1 from the right wing playbook.

When you don't have an answer for something, or have no knowledge about a topic, change the subject, deflect, obfuscate and never never never open your mind to another point of view.

Just watch them when they run for office. They are all the same. No answers, no details, no program, no nothing but no, no, no.

Man them jokas was big! size of a quarter dog gone! KAPOOYA, KAOOPYA.

The sky is falling
The sky is falling

Pathetic
Fearmongering
Frustrated

You learned nothing from the Reagan-O'Neill tax 'simplification' and the fraud it played on the American middle class. A few crumbs in minor tax lowering for the poor and middle class and huge tax breaks for the rich. Thats not fear mongering; it's history and it's the truth. Something else for your self-education program. (If you need to come back to the teacher for special help, remember to be polite or you will be left on your own).

And I must remind you that all of those tax rates that everyone quotes are the top MARGINAL rates, not overall rates. During America's last big emergency, the highest marginal rate was 91%, so even your el diablo 75% doesn't seem that bad. It's not the number that counts as much as how it's set up.

I hope I didn't get too complicated for you. But, once again, remedial assistance is available with certain caveats.

raise the tax rate to 75% and then I want to hear all of you libs crying, I say take your money

Well, how about them? Do you see the liberals here parroting what is on MSNBC? I sure don't. And I still see an inability to have a back and forth discussion with the right wing here because they don't have their own knowledge to back up what their talking heads say. I don't need the MSNBC crowd to form my ideas or to put words in my mouth. And I don't agree with all that the MSNBC crowd has to say either. You still don't get it, do you? Liberals are not identical; we are not clones. We don't adhere strictly to a party line. Just because you do, doesn't mean everyone does. Some people, even ones on the right, are capable of independent thought, analysis of facts and data, and drawing their own conclusions. I have yet to see you do anything close to that. To the contrary, you seem to believe that facts and data are evil somehow, probably because they constantly challenge your assertions.

No wonder the right wing has become so nasty and frustrated. They got whupped in the last election and have no idea how to recover. There is no direction now because the Republicans cannot satisfy their base and attract anyone from the center at the same time. And the current handwringing, arguing, blame-gaming, and generallized fratricide is better entertainment than Linda McMahon could ever provide. And the best part is that the show is free !!!

LOVE IT !

How about left wing talking heads, all the idiots on MSNBC,Chris Mathews ,Al Shapton etc.

Didn't the Republican Governor of Louisiana, Bobby Jindahl, say something about the need to stop being the stupid party?

because they are stupid

They weren't rumours. They were cuts that Siemens announced and I believe they did so publically. They may have done well enough last year to be able to cut back on the layoffs.

Why are people so quick to jump to conclusions?

All the rumors last year about a big layoff -- didn't materialize. YOu have lost your credibility.

whatever you say. she's not my president.

The 10 Commandment? Are you kidding me? Politicians on both sides of the aisle are constantly destroying them in their own personal actions or actions in government.

Graft: Thou shalt no steal
All sorts of sex-capades: Adultery

Note that none of those things are political or partisan. It's just public, visible people breaking the laws of God, much as many Americans do. There are many forms of stealing that don't involve armed robbery or breaking in and entering.

The only part of the 10 Commandments I see being followed is the one about resting on the Sabbath. Congress has decided to observe the Sabbath beyond all reason.

Not all Americans believe in the 'western' God. And there was never any intent on the part of the Founding Fathers that the country be founded as a Christian country although they may have based some of their ideas on Christian principles. The issue, however, to me is those who run around today saying this is a Christian country AND, as such, should base its laws, values, etc. on THEIR interpretation of the Bible. And, that is not what freedom of religion is about. Hopefully, you will understand the distinction.

Christian country. I would more likely say a country that believe in God.
"In God we trust" Let me see-- the 10 Commandments -- was that a Christian concept ?

Put a crucifix is a bottle of urine -- and put on display as "art". That is OK. Try doing that with something that symbolizes some other religions and see what happens.

No. Try to use your brain for a second. We all know that what you post here is regurgitation of right wing talking heads. Now you want to be spoon fed on the Israeli issue. It's about time to grow up and take responsibility for yourself. Isn't that the kind of thing Republicans are always talking about anyway?

It's really not that hard to figure out if you can just drop your blind hatred for a minute or two. This issue of Obama and Israel may be a big deal to the right wing talking heads you listen to, but in reality, like much of what they talk about, this is much ado about nothing.

Perhaps the better question would be why any one, including any Jew would vote for a party that keeps hammering home this notion that America is a Christian nation (yes, Christians are a majority, but we are not a religious-based country like Iran) and a party that has shown complete antipathy towards almost every minority except men (yes, women are the majority in America and we all know what Republicans think about womens' issues).

I again refer to you recent polls that show that Republicans are on the wrong side of just about every big issue today.

"American Jews should be ashamed that they voted for Obama. He hates Israel. And yes,I am a jew."

It amazes me how the Jewish in this country ( USA) continue to vote with the Democratic party. Especially how they voted for Obama .... Can some Jewish person out there explain this to me.

Thanks

Say goodbye to Israel. You will have only yourselves to blame.Long live the Iranian revolution!

Thank you for showing the world that not all Jews are intelligent. Other than right wing talking points, you have no real evidence to support your statement. If people in Israel can disagree with some aspects of Netanyahu's positions and policies, why can't Americans do the same? You seem to forget how controversial Mr. Netanyahu is.

American Jews should be ashamed that they voted for Obama. He hates Israel. And yes,I am a jew.

Two simple facts about Obamacare.

1. It is here to stay for the foreseeable future. In order to repeal it, it will take Republicans winning the White House, maintaining control of the House, AND obtaining a minimum of 60 seats in the Senate. That is not likely to happen soon.

2. By the time that repeal becomes a political reality, Obamacare will have been in full force for several years. Remember it won't come into full effect until next year. After that, one of two things will happen. Either the predictions that it will be terrible will come true and pressure will come from the public to either repeal it or fix the parts that are broke OR they will come to love it in which case repeal will be as impossible as repealing social security or medicare is today.

It matters no whether you like Obamacare or hate it or are indifferent, the above is fairly certain. A whatever is said about it here is of vitually no consequence.

There, I did it. I admitted to being a participant in an exercise in futility. (However, I continue because there are a few positive things in it for me).

Wow !!! The truth must really hurt. All these posts about Adam Smith being flagged. Someone must be getting through and someone must be feeling the pain of the truth.

Should I just save you the trouble and self-flag this post too?

Good try, but not even close.

The quote was from Adam Smith, author of The Wealth of Nations, and generally recognized as the father of modern capitalism. And that was back in the 1770's, I believe.

How's that for a kick in the head?

Stalin