I guess all those who left were not tough enough.

If they really did pay AL $$$ to come back it's a dangerous road to be heading down. Sure it keeps one isolated customer happy but at what price? Surely keeping guys from leaving in the first would have made more sense! After all, if everyone else is gone (or going), how are the remaining customers going to be looked after?

Why would you stay, if you're rewarded for leaving? It's certainly one way to test your true worth to the company!!

Sounds smart to me. I also do hairdressing on the side, could I bail to a salon after 8 months?

The last two to do that just used it to get out here - did the time then off to a better life..bit like the convicts you lot sent out..

I am well experienced in Siemens products, how much would they pay me to drag my sorry ass round the globe to the old prison colony? I don't do knock myself out for the company though, work my way so they would have to take or leave it...

Yes, that is exactly what they have done with AL - pay them heaps more $$$$ just to bring them back! What a way to run a service division!!!

I guess they will have to buy experience.

Next to go is PP or SD....Take your pick!! No one left in melbourne who knows what they are doing...Well done RT and KB!

is RT's middle name Arthur = R.A.T

problems are usually where head office is!

So are the problems only in Melbourne, as they appear to be the only guys are leaving?

No one in the industry turns over engineers as fast as Siemens....they are number 1 after all!

Randox?

True, both Abbott & now Siemens are not treating their support staff well. Suspect Beckman is not much better. That only leaves one main Diagnostic company that is reasonably fair, ie where the Abbott and Siemens Eng's are going from what I can see, clue -starts with R.

The Old Chiron gang needs to go..... this is going to cost siemens dearly!

Big Kev the Bozo, RT the rat what a pair!

That's the way of Siemens management...why is thier competetors turn over of staff so much lower?? - it's about to cost them. Get rid of the old chiron cronies and things may look up - eventually....

If you seriously think that ANY company gives a toss about their techs that conduct the work and smooths the problems created then you are seriously misguided. Train them, burn them out then toss them out the door or wait until they cannot take anymore and leave. That is the way it is with big business unfortunately.

Not to worry, big Kev and his clone RT will fix it all up, infact they are working on the whole picture at the moment...Cant you see the results...In the meantime toughen up boys! And dont forget, if you dont like it here you can of course all leave - we dont need experienced engineers, infact we dont need engineers, we only need sales people... Get it through your head!!! When something goes down, that is what second level support is for... Dont you know by now? Unfortunately it doesnt help those poor customers......

Well done Siemens MT thats 12 people inc 2 service managers from Melbourne in just over 2 years plus a few from other states PY etc a good few of which were product champions, better start and poach some more decent staff from Europe eh before the customers STAMPEDE?

lets just say he has a cousin who really loves fresh Carbonara!

Would that be someone from the "cycling federation" ?

Well if you don't like it you can leave... that's a quote from one Senior Manager at Siemens.. no wonder there is a que to get out!

Still don't see anyone from Roche, Abbott, or BCAL going there. That says volumes about a company when their main competitors don't want to work there.

On a positive note, they are paying very high rates to keep/attract staff and that pushes the industry rate up overall...

What, another?
What the hell is going there?

Confirmed MO leaves the building .......last one out turn off the lights!

Another one bites the dust!

Some are bone fide Engineers with significant practical experience.

So they are not real engineers, but call give themselves the title of engineer. That is not very professional.

And the sales guys are ringing the bell so many times.....

No doubt about it!!! Melbourne HAD some real talent in engineering! Well done Bayer, opps Siemens... Those sales boys will fix it! They are the real experts at the end of the day???? No??

What about the remaining states? Who's left and are there any good ones?

Are they really engineers (Engineering Degree) or just service repair reps?

Ha you think an engineering degree makes a 'real' engineer? most graduates can't fix a sandwich let alone an analyser. And this isn't a component level industry its board/module level stuff, experience - especially of the how specifically the stupid quirky crap is put together, common sense and a nose for what could of gone wrong matter most.

Are they really engineers (Engineering Degree) or just service repair reps?

6 make that 11...namely DS,AL,BB,JL,MW,BH,DK,GC,RC,TSL,JohnLplus all the xDPC gang!!! good work Siemens 7 of which were considered experts

What experience is now left in melbourne??? God help the customers!

Siemens Engineering Vic/Tas turnover in the past 2 years 6/13.....
Hello???

4 engineers who know what they are doing, or 4 employees Siemens call engineers?

ha ha its PP,SD,MO and JT so make up your own mind...

Two more at this stage - possibly one more as well!

one or two?

Vic Eng gone within 4 weeks.

4 engineers who know what they are doing, or 4 employees Siemens call engineers?

4

How many engineers in Siemens over there? as its a small country in population always thought there would only be like 10-12 in the whole country yet they keep leaving so that only leaves 2 guys! guess there must be a few more then?

How many have applied for the Roche jobs?

Confirmed... 4 more are ready to jump the sinking ship!

4 more VIC engineers are ready to bail (2 from each stream) and its contagious as a sales person left today, last one out please turn off the lights......think of the planet!

What a way to run a business. Rehire people you "didn't need for way more than you paid them originally!

Maybe those Dade guys wern't so bad after all.

That wouldnt be "The Great Golden Nuts " himself writing ......about "Himself"

Whos left with any experience in Vic?