Doesn't seem like the US model is doing much better than the Canadian ...?

Canada is single payer. They import health care and export medical scientists.

That is what socialism does.

Yeah, tell me about it. The only thing worse is a Brit...

Ridiculous, petty, insecure people, puffing out their chests about their "experience and qualifications", no one would touch the majority of them.

There is (sic) some major schools..." That is wrong even given the odd way Brits are disposed to conjugate collective nouns and such..

I disagree, it is a different language. The use of the language here is what it is, other English countries use a different and valid version. But then understanding that would require looking over the wall.

'But seriously, I'm sure the Universities are very good from an "academic" perpsecitve. But academically elite Universites do not make scientists, high powered research factories do. And that is the big difference. The grant money in Canada is an insignificant fraction of the grant money available to the major research universites in the US. Outside of Sick Kids, I can't think of any real research factories in the Great White North. And I wouldn't be surprised if they get more money from NIH grants there than they get Canadian money.'

A very good and interesting point. I've always been curious as to why Canada doesn't fund biopharma/ lifesciences more, either at the university level or the industrial level. One would think that they have the capacity to do so considering their higher level of taxation. Is it because their tax revenue is diluted due to more social programs, or because a greater percentage of public money goes to bio-ag, or because big pharma lobbies against them due to their public healthcare system? It seems that other social democracies like Sweden and Germany have much more developed life science sectors than does Canada.

Any thoughts?

Therein lies the problem if they teach "There is (sic) some major schools..." That is wrong even given the odd way Brits are disposed to conjugate collective nouns and such.

But seriously, I'm sure the Universities are very good from an "academic" perpsecitve. But academically elite Universites do not make scientists, high powered research factories do. And that is the big difference. The grant money in Canada is an insignificant fraction of the grant money available to the major research universites in the US. Outside of Sick Kids, I can't think of any real research factories in the Great White North. And I wouldn't be surprised if they get more money from NIH grants there than they get Canadian money.

Very true. Anyone with talent leaves for the USA. No original work being done in Canada anymore.

Assuming this is true what is coming out of academia then? There is some major schools (universities) there that stomp on most of the "ivy leagues"

Very true. Anyone with talent leaves for the USA. No original work being done in Canada anymore.

Generic pharma and underfunded CRO sweatshops