Bio-Rad LSG: Why doesn't anyone here talk about it?

Have they become that irrelevant in the industry, or are they that perfect?

You mean that LSG will be

You mean that LSG will be acquired?

Do tell about the big

Do tell about the big acquisition. You can't just leave us hanging without some hints.
But then, if it goes the way of other acquisitions, whatever is acquired will be dead within two years.

Agreed if past performance is an indicator. Is it to be an LSG or CDG acqisition

Perhaps they are going to

Perhaps they are going to acquire some business skills?

Do tell about the big

Do tell about the big acquisition. You can't just leave us hanging without some hints.
But then, if it goes the way of other acquisitions, whatever is acquired will be dead within two years.

Big Aquisition Coming

Big Aquisition Coming

""LL and HG from

""LL and HG from Ciphergen"
It seems HG mentioned here is the manufacturing manager at Nobel.
LL is a manager at LSD R&D.
"

LL is only capable of echoing. After RP gone, he even can't echoing anymore.

Tech associate I is hourly

Tech associate I is hourly and chemist I is salary. Used to be a tech was entry level out of high school or limited experience and a chemist had limited experience out of college.

Have they found a replacement

Have they found a replacement for DT in the UK yet??

Yes

Technical associate I versus

Technical associate I versus chemist I

What is the difference?

"LL and HG from Ciphergen" It

"LL and HG from Ciphergen"
It seems HG mentioned here is the manufacturing manager at Nobel.
LL is a manager at LSD R&D.

Have they found a replacement

Have they found a replacement for DT in the UK yet??

LL and HG from Ciphergen Are

LL and HG from Ciphergen

Are they still here. What is their positions now

"The problem is that when BR

"The problem is that when BR buys a company, they quickly try to make the company follow the "Bio-Rad way" of doing things. If BR would have just left the acquired companys alone so that these companys could have continue to operate relatively independently, it is very likely that BR's acquisitions would have been successful."

So BR way is almost bullet-proof way to make a company to fail?

It's worth to note that BR also had a tendency to promote folks from acquried companies who "fit BR culture".
For example, LL and HG from Ciphergen; who are main contributors for the former company's failure.

You mean Diamed.

You mean Diamed.

"BR will collapse for

"BR will collapse for sure.
They lost tons of money on purchasing companies. Here are a a few names: 1) MJ 2) Ciphergen 3)Biomed. All of them turned out to be total failure."

The problem is that when BR buys a company, they quickly try to make the company follow the "Bio-Rad way" of doing things. If BR would have just left the acquired companys alone so that these companys could have continue to operate relatively independently, it is very likely that BR's acquisitions would have been successful.

BR will collapse for

BR will collapse for sure.
They lost tons of money on purchasing companies. Here are a a few names: 1) MJ 2) Ciphergen 3)Biomed. All of them turned out to be total failure.

CDG is no better. That's why

CDG is no better. That's why LOTS of people leave them.

Total mess That's why I left

Total mess
That's why I left them.

,what is happening in the Uk?

,what is happening in the Uk? DT leaves under a cloud and they still haven't recruited a team leader in the north!
looks a real mess,

imaging and PCR specialists also gone
back office support staff are leaving

have replacements been recruited. the leadership and communication from the high managers is so bad. this is not what NS and GM promised at town hall meeting
now there is less reps and more managers and even more ISO managers
communication was to be improved according to HR but it has stopped

what's new with Bio-rad?

what's new with Bio-rad?

"Perhaps rather than moaning

"Perhaps rather than moaning about the posts you should stop blindly following old fashioned dogma and start challenging the sterile systems and people within the organisation in order for it to change and survive.
Going right back to the start of this post. If you don't you will become irrelevant."

If it was that simple, the answer two the two questions would be:
Are they that perfect? --No, no company is perfect.
Are they irrelevant? --No, a company the size of Bio-Rad is not irrelevant and little risk of becoming so in the next 5 years at least. Love them or hate them, people know them by the green gel boxes...that identity alone will keep them relevant so long as people are running protein gels. Ask any of their competitors and I guarantee you that they train their sales teams to sell against the green boxes.

Perhaps rather than moaning

Perhaps rather than moaning about the posts you should stop blindly following old fashioned dogma and start challenging the sterile systems and people within the organisation in order for it to change and survive.
Going right back to the start of this post. If you don't you will become irrelevant.

"The vast majority of

"The vast majority of comments on this board that speak negatively of BR are not from employees of the company."

That's true...

They are from their customers.

The vast majority of comments

The vast majority of comments on this board that speak negatively of BR are not from employees of the company. These are mostly negative spins from the sad, sad reps @ Life, Eppendorf, et al. that have the poorest customer service in the life science service industry.

Anonymity has advantages, such as no accountability for the drivel spewed on a message board titled "Rumor Mill."

Get back to work people. Maybe if you spent more time trying to sell your garbage than trashing the competition you wouldn't be canned every Q you don't make plan.

Speaking to a number of the

Speaking to a number of the operations people they have no imagination, follow (outdated) precedure without question and lack drive.
I can only see them cutting costs to maintain the bottom line as it wont be achieved by top line growth.

Speak to anyone not just operations people. There is a pervasive malaise in LSG. In less than five years they will cease to exist.

you are perhaps right. But

you are perhaps right. But they are so flogging a dead horse! Speaking to a number of the operations people they have no imagination, follow (outdated) precedure without question and lack drive.
I can only see them cutting costs to maintain the bottom line as it wont be achieved by top line growth.

RE: "Has to be an acquisition

RE: "Has to be an acquisition target!"

Who would purchase them? What price would they be willing to pay?

Overall, I have my doubts they would sell -not until the venerable DS and AS are dead and in the ground.

just going back to a previous

just going back to a previous post. The bottom line might still look fine but top line has flat lined for years-particularly in europe.
They look to focus on product areas which they highlighted over 4 years ago which continue to struggle to grow.
The company suffers from a lack of flair and imagination which limits its ability to grow in what is an ever changing market.
Has to be an acquisition target!

It's going to be a fun rest

It's going to be a fun rest of the year for LSG

High level managers at LSG

High level managers at LSG usually being forced out or laid off (such as PM, RP,JS,etc.), they have no interest to post here.
Whatever happened to that clueless micromanager JS anyway? Has he found some other company to ruin? I pity the working for him.

We have a biorad analyser in

We have a biorad analyser in our lab which has never worked as promised nearly a year now. Despite promises of software updates and engineer training they have never succeeded in getting it to function. Thankfully we have never paid a penny for it or else it would have been replaced months ago.
Do you still have to ask why people criticise them. The fact you are asking instantly suggests that you have never had any dealings with them.

Bio-rad are known here and in

Bio-rad are known here and in Europe and the far east for poor quality and service. If you don't believe me just look on google.

I can believe it so too. :-)

I can believe it so too. :-)

In these posts Bio-Rad seems

In these posts Bio-Rad seems to be populated by idiots, i can believe it so, something sounds strange preventivo sito web

Why are the posts so negative

Why are the posts so negative about Bio-Rad? Who are the worst managers? Which products should I avoid buying? Inquiring minds want to know.

You clearly have never been

You clearly have never been buying anything from Biorad or you would know why everyone has it in for them.

High level managers at LSG

High level managers at LSG usually being forced out or laid off (such as PM, RP,JS,etc.), they have no interest to post here.

So as one poster put

So as one poster put it....why does everyone have it in for these guys? BioRad LSG seems to be doing ok? Are all of the comments from scorned blow-hards or complainers who are at low level positions that don't really know what the hell is going on?
___________________________________________________

The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated.
Sincerely, Bio-Rad Life Science Group.

"Bio-Rad topped Wall Street's estimate of $508.2 million for the quarter.

Its Life Sciences segment had 13 percent revenue growth to $169.9 million. The company cited electrophoresis and imaging product lines as key growth drivers."

Is this a fluke or can they continue this through 2011?

The reports of my death are

The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated.
Sincerely, Bio-Rad Life Science Group.

"Bio-Rad topped Wall Street's estimate of $508.2 million for the quarter.

Its Life Sciences segment had 13 percent revenue growth to $169.9 million. The company cited electrophoresis and imaging product lines as key growth drivers."

Is this a fluke or can they continue this through 2011?

Boss never answers my

Boss never answers my e-mails...any suggestions ?

Let me know what region he or she is. I can't stand micromanagers.

Or just grab the phone and

Or just grab the phone and call him! Why must all communication only rely on E-Mail. NERD!

"Boss never answers my

"Boss never answers my e-mails...any suggestions ?"

Move out of Biorad and get a boss who can read.

Boss never answers my

Boss never answers my e-mails...any suggestions ?

PC(a.k.a. Old Turkey

PC(a.k.a. Old Turkey Neck)continues to run NASD into the ground with his lack of leadership.

BC (a.k.a. Mr. It is better to be lucky than smart)has no viable vision for the future.

I heard that the UK LSG is

I heard that the UK LSG is all over the place as they lost there Sales Manager and they are reorgising, are they connected??

Mostly -yes. Some good

Mostly -yes. Some good people, but more politics and whinning than any real strategy, innovation or good science on the LSG side of the business.

why does everyone have it n

why does everyone have it n for these guys, are they really that bad?

Bio-Rad= Office politics +

Bio-Rad= Office politics + micromanagers

What is Bio-Rad? Allow

What is Bio-Rad?

Allow me.

Bio-Rad (noun) A recepticle for bell ends.

What is Bio-Rad?

What is Bio-Rad?

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