Bio-Rad LSG: Why doesn't anyone here talk about it?

Have they become that irrelevant in the industry, or are they that perfect?

The long life gels are way

The long life gels are way overdue, hmm perhaps ten years. Why would customers switch from their Novex gels. They love those. Where is the motivation for the customer?

LSG has gone from a top five life science company when I joined to barely hanging in the top twenty. Too many incompetent management decisions.

Too many lifers in LSG with no other corporate experience.

The extended shelf life gels

The extended shelf life gels are long over due. The poor quality of the Ready gels made customers unhappy for a long time. We will see if the quality problems are addressed with the new ones.

BTW -SH was not the person with the idea to create a long life gel. Just right place at the right time.

People should talk about LSG.

People should talk about LSG. It's rampant with losers and people who've been promoted beyond their skill level. Just to name a few PC, BC (NASD), RLA (PFD), MH(PFD), AT, RP (LSD).
LC the HR guy is a pathetic boob.
BC (VP of LSG) is too clueless or put many of those above people in their positions. Plus he's too busy watching his back since LSG can't make its profit number.

Seems like SH actually knows what the heck she's doing. Those TGX gels were a stroke of genius.

The TGX gels will save LSG,

The TGX gels will save LSG, youll see

ping

ping

"Compare stock values over

"Compare stock values over the last 3 years or so... Dionex, at $71 looks to be making its way back to its height of $87 in 2008. Illumina, at $38 now (height ~$50 in 2008). Bio-Rad is at about $100 today (at $108 in 2008). That's doing well?"

Bio-Rad CDG is not LSG.
For Illumina, they doubled their work force. Dionex had no layoff for years.

Compare stock values over the

Compare stock values over the last 3 years or so... Dionex, at $71 looks to be making its way back to its height of $87 in 2008. Illumina, at $38 now (height ~$50 in 2008). Bio-Rad is at about $100 today (at $108 in 2008). That's doing well?

"And what company has

"And what company has actually done well consistently over the past 2 years? Just curious"

Just list a few: Illumina, Dionex...

And what company has actually

And what company has actually done well consistently over the past 2 years? Just curious...

They are not doing all that

They are not doing all that well. The life science segment was down in 2008 as well. Declined again in 2009. Not a happy trend.

Q4 the poor sales team was pushed to bring in every dollar they could. To pull of a good Q4, they had to pull some Q1 2010 business forward. Prediction: Q1 2010 LSG will not reach targets.

"revenues for the Life

"revenues for the Life Science segment were $631.5 million, down 1.9% over the prior year, or an increase of 0.8% on a currency-neutral basis."
It's a decrease of sales. But US dollar worth more.

Figures are out, see

Figures are out, see www.bio-rad.com
Looks like LSG is still alive with some moderate growth in Q4!!

Let me chime in here about

Let me chime in here about working in sales for Bio-Rad LSG. I would vet out the regional manager. Some of them are really good and know how to sell and do a good job looking out for their reps and providing support. Others are much less effective and spend too much time trying to make themselves look good.

The marketing there is pretty variable. There are a couple of good people in the product development groups. The NASD team is pretty young/inexperienced and is run by a clueless wonder.

The company overall is not very innovative. It can be challenging to make plan as a result. I would take a look at their annual and quarterly reports. That will give you a good idea on how well sales have been. Good luck on figuring this one out.

Why the animosity here? And

Why the animosity here? And to those that have posted constructive comments, my sincere appreciation. To reiterate, a recruiter called me about an open field position within the LSG. I have now been in various field-based positions for more than 15 years. For that reason, I first do some background research...and came across this thread. it is now quite obvious that one individual has WAY too much time on their hands....

For 11E or above, bonus can

For 11E or above, bonus can be 30% or even 80% of salary?

"Please, no need for snide comments, easily in the six figures, given that you are so interested...
You must be interviewing for a new CEO position then"

Please, no need for snide

Please, no need for snide comments, easily in the six figures, given that you are so interested...
You must be interviewing for a new CEO position then

a recruiter called me about a

a recruiter called me about a LSG field position yesterday, pay seems decent....but this thread gives me second thoughts...

Having worked there for many years don't do it. LSG is full of people who are too fearful or lazy to work for a better company. There are some good, talented people, but not enough to turn the course of a doomed entity.

Please, no need for snide

Please, no need for snide comments, easily in the six figures, given that you are so interested...

a recruiter called me about a

a recruiter called me about a LSG field position yesterday, pay seems decent....but this thread gives me second thoughts...

'pay seems decent'? 

You wouldn't be happening to be currently employed at MacDonald's are you?

"Agree -unfortunately NS does

"Agree -unfortunately NS does not care about this business and will continue to do nothing."
To the best interest for NS, perserve the current LSG status while seeking a buyer within a year is the least risky route.

a recruiter called me about a

a recruiter called me about a LSG field position yesterday, pay seems decent....but this thread gives me second thoughts...

Agree -unfortunately NS does

Agree -unfortunately NS does not care about this business and will continue to do nothing.
The people you mention are so embedded in the company that a big house cleaning will cannot be done. I would agree that PC and BC need to be replaced with people from the outside. LC is a joke what does that guy do to earn his salary? Sign forms? Ramble incoherently at meetings? He seems to have plenty of time to walk around and socialize while the people who report to him actually work.

Just get rid of the following

Just get rid of the following people:
PC-has he made plan since he's been in charge?
LC (in HR) a total tool that enables bad managers
RP leading LSD R&D into irrelevance
TS (in LSD) what exactly does he do?
Business development people (TM, GV) haven't accomplished anything, ever
all division managers
anyone hand-picked by BC (the VP) for key positions
NS should make everyone in LSG with pay grade higher than 11 justify their jobs and re-interview in order to keep them

"You must be referring to the

"You must be referring to the JS "yes people" that he created before leaving."
LSD R&D as well. RP is still around though.

"they going down the toilet!

"they going down the toilet! it's not a innovative company, just keep copying other companies products! They laid off some good people and kept only the "YES" people"

You must be referring to the JS "yes people" that he created before leaving.

they going down the toilet!

they going down the toilet! it's not a innovative company, just keep copying other companies products! They laid off some good people and kept only the "YES" people

How bad was the year for LSG?

How bad was the year for LSG? Let's see some numbers people.

I heard LSG did so bad last

I heard LSG did so bad last year that the meeting was only 2 days long and DH didn't have his usual private 'hospitality suite'. Is this true?

NASD sales meeting had no

NASD sales meeting had no glamour or any cool extra outings, but what would you expect after a crappy year? Stop your moaning and go sell something.

When did they ever have 'glamour or any cool extra outings'? You must be one of those lifers who never worked anywher else

NASD sales meeting had no

NASD sales meeting had no glamour or any cool extra outings, but what would you expect after a crappy year? Stop your moaning and go sell something.

Lame, as always. BC, PC, and

Lame, as always. BC, PC, and DH are such dip sh@ts. With all the work that goes into creating a sales meeting you would think that these tools would show some leadership and make it worthwhile.

So how was the NASD sales

So how was the NASD sales meeting?

"If only LSG would lay off

"If only LSG would lay off some of the incompetents. There's enough of them. who would you like to see go?"

Get rid off ALL above or at 11E. There will be just a few exceptions of incompetence.

If only LSG would lay off

If only LSG would lay off some of the incompetents. There's enough of them. who would you like to see go?

Did lsg make plan or not?

Did lsg make plan or not? How about US LSG?

"Happy new year" layoff at

"Happy new year" layoff at hercule in early Jan?

Very close to making plan for

Very close to making plan for Q4.

is it going to be a merry

is it going to be a merry xmas? will lsg make plan?

Doesn't look like it, even after the free shipping gimmick

is it going to be a merry

is it going to be a merry xmas? will lsg make plan?

LSG continues the slow

LSG continues the slow decline into irrelevance. What should Bio-Rad do? Sell LSG? Slash unprofitable product lines and the people associated with?

Not going well for Q4. LSG in

Not going well for Q4. LSG in US started a free-shipping promotion in December to pull in as many dollars as possible. If it works they can look forward to another hole to dig out of Q1 of 2010.

rumor has it the list for

rumor has it the list for layoffs has been made and will happen before the end of the year

"Clowns to the left of me,

"Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right; here I am stuck in the middle with you"

Nice thing about BioRad LSG

Nice thing about BioRad LSG management: they are keep fighting with each other, while forget to lay-off employees for months now!!!

Q4 is probably not going that

Q4 is probably not going that well since nobody wants to post how they are doing.

So how's Q4 going?

So how's Q4 going?

So how's Q4 looking?

So how's Q4 looking?

how are q4 sales? are the

how are q4 sales? are the numbers that grim that there will be layoffs before end of year?

who will get the empty position on the board of directors? I bet JG and BC are both angling for it

"so what's SC doing now? I

"so what's SC doing now? I thought he was next in line?"
SC the ladies man left for Foster City pastures
SC the leprechaun was JS's chosen one but now that JS is gone (by choice?) he doesn't have as much clout.

SC quited last

SC quited last month.
Wondering who will take over his ladies left at BioRad.
For his latest employer, the reference for him is: BioRad's version of Tiger wood. (he is as good as Tiger on entertaining side, but as imcompetent as other BioRad managers on business side)

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