Bio-Rad LSG: Why doesn't anyone here talk about it?

Have they become that irrelevant in the industry, or are they that perfect?

what is happening in the Uk?

what is happening in the Uk? DT leaves under a cloud and they still haven't recruited a team leader in the north!
looks a real mess.

"BC announces that we have no

"BC announces that we have no new products, no new markets, no ideas and are now officially a third rate company. Destined to become the Pontiac of biotech tool providers."

For Bio-Rad LSG being a Pontiac would be a step up. More like the AMC Pacer of tool providers. Large awkward, clumsy, and soon to be forgotten.

Here is a link for those not familiar with this 70's POS http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1...

I don't think Ortho would

I don't think Ortho would seriously consider buying Diamed. Biorad are dumping the IH1000 on price all across Europe in desparation because they can't win accounts on technical merit. They are tying themselves into long term deals at next to no margin on consumables. Why would Ortho want a part of that?

It's official, all LSG

It's official, all LSG products are now in decline. No positive growth (unless you factor in currency) in any area.
It's payback for the managers that got where they are by stepping on other people.

I ask the same question. CC

I ask the same question. CC of Corp-HR controls the hiring of all the Divisions. So, I'm not sure why there is LSG-HR and CDG-HR when they all have to vow to what CC dictates anyway. CC should not be in HR afterall. Unapproachable, croonies of the Sch...She does NOTHING to protect the employees.

It's not only LSG due to poor

It's not only LSG due to poor management and product quality there is BIG changes happening in CDG worldwide.

Why is it that only LSG is

Why is it that only LSG is always under fire?

"BC announces that we have no

"BC announces that we have no new products, no new markets, no ideas and are now officially a third rate company. Destined to become the Pontiac of biotech tool providers."

wow isn´t that impressive.....big blabla meeting ...lets see what happens the next few month......more blabla.....or something surprisingly.....personnaly I would count on more blabla

What is the big meeting

What is the big meeting tomorrow anybody know ?
BC announces that we have no new products, no new markets, no ideas and are now officially a third rate company. Destined to become the Pontiac of biotech tool providers.

What is the big meeting

What is the big meeting tomorrow anybody know ?

Division managers starting as

Division managers starting as receptionist and lab rats.

Boggling, for a company this size.

How much longer before LSG gets dissolved?

I saw they made a movie about

I saw they made a movie about managers at LSG, "Horrible Bosses." Majority of them have no experience anywhere else. Division managers starting as receptionist and lab rats.

Got news for you, nobody want

Got news for you, nobody want to buy from them either.

It's not just LSG. Nobody

It's not just LSG. Nobody wants to work for Biorad, simple as that.

Why so much turnover at lsg?

Why so much turnover at lsg?

How bad are second quarter

How bad are second quarter sales numbers? Any chance at all LSG will make its goal?

Not wanted when Ortho take

Not wanted when Ortho take over?

DT from LSG UK leaves

DT from LSG UK leaves Bio-Rad. Internal memo just states he no longer works for Bio-Rad as from 16 June. Memo dated 17 June.

No idea what that means.

No idea what that means.

belive it or not! A small

belive it or not! A small piece of trust will be behind, so lets see what the future tells us

Oh well it MUST be true.

Oh well it MUST be true.

I can confirm that I read a

I can confirm that I read a confirmation that this was confirmed as heard...

I can confirm that I have

I can confirm that I have heard confirmations that this was heard.

I can confirm that I have

I can confirm that I have heard this too. Ortho are pretty keen to buy Diamed.

"I have heard that there is

"I have heard that there is negotiations underway to sell parts of LSG to J&J. To sweeten the deal I hear that some elements of CDG will go with them. Notably Diamed will be sold. Has anyone any more information on this."

wow - get rid of Diamed means reducing loss during a worse buy and integration process...but would it be better for the remaining people at Diamed to switch from Biorad to Ortho....not sure....at the end of the day .....Diamed is dead anyway

I have heard that there is

I have heard that there is negotiations underway to sell parts of LSG to J&J. To sweeten the deal I hear that some elements of CDG will go with them. Notably Diamed will be sold. Has anyone any more information on this.

Some worker bees and managers

Some worker bees and managers at CDG are great people.
Unfortunately, they're often overrun by toxic managers.

I can't speak for LSG, but

I can't speak for LSG, but CSD isn't perfect.

Typical American company,

Typical American company, "sales are down", "Sack someone".

Are sales dismal enough in

Are sales dismal enough in LSG to warrant another round of layoffs?

They were once a leader in

They were once a leader in life science research but now are probably not even in the top twenty research companies.
A result of NS being too cheap to make any useful acquisitions.

"We researchers know them for

"We researchers know them for what they are and aren't, emphasis on the latter. 9/10 times, I won't even invite them to the party for my lab needs"

Ouch.

We researchers know them for

We researchers know them for what they are and aren't, emphasis on the latter. 9/10 times, I won't even invite them to the party for my lab needs.

I don't agree. I think Biorad

I don't agree.
I think Biorad should continue with the current strategy and attitude towards customers.

Then again I work for the competition and everything they do forces more and more customers our way.

Keep up the good work guys.
And thank you.

"Ah, naive grasshopper, why

"Ah, naive grasshopper, why do you think companies exist? Are you a Communist?"

No he/she isn´t a Communist, more a Strategist!

Don´t think to short if you whant to build someting with high reputation for generations, if you just think about today to fill your pockets you are right! Fire sale and dont think about the burned land behind you....no brain is needed just good marketing!

'Everything is about price

'Everything is about price and profit and sales.'

Ah, naive grasshopper, why do you think companies exist? Are you a Communist?

Don't be too down on the LSG,

Don't be too down on the LSG, CDG are just as bad but at least they have the products to produce sales to cover it up.

Why is the culture at LSG so

Why is the culture at LSG so bad? Who is responsible for this debacle?

Biorad Just don't buy

Biorad

Just don't buy anything from them, work for them or speak to them and you'll be fine.

They have a terrible customer services record. I should know I used to be a senior manager with them. Everything is about price and profit and sales. No interest in support or customer relations. Once you've bought what they are selling they will have no interest in you at all.

LSG=losers sitting glumly

LSG=losers sitting glumly

Does anyone like BioPlex?

Does anyone like BioPlex?

BIOPLEX is the new definition

BIOPLEX is the new definition of marginal engineering! What unreliable kludge.

Bioplex is complete garbage.

Bioplex is complete garbage.

What is changing after the

What is changing after the latest shakeup/reorg? It is awfully quiet. Is everybody just keeping their head down in fear of the poor sales so far this year?
At least some really incompetent folks were let go last round, along with some good who always end up as collateral damage.
Who do you think is on the list for next round? If there is one certainty, it is there will be more people let go in 2011.

Sales are bad this year at LSG

How long ago was the most

How long ago was the most recent re-org? Who was impacted?

What is changing after the

What is changing after the latest shakeup/reorg? It is awfully quiet. Is everybody just keeping their head down in fear of the poor sales so far this year?
At least some really incompetent folks were let go last round, along with some good who always end up as collateral damage.
Who do you think is on the list for next round? If there is one certainty, it is there will be more people let go in 2011.

Co-worker never shuts up!!!

Co-worker never shuts up!!!

Spring has sprung!

Spring has sprung!

When is BC going to be forced

When is BC going to be forced out as VP?
He sounded kind of nervous during the last investor call.

"LC is a big phony and as

"LC is a big phony and as worthless as a white crayon. What does this guy actually contribute? Seems to have plenty of time to walk around, talk, and drink coffee."

He is networking with his future friends in hell.
No matter what religion these BioRad managers have, they will go to hell eventually. They need LC to support them in hell as well.

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