What's going on at LIFE?

Synergies=Layoffs
coming B4 year end.

Looks like some managers will

Looks like some managers will need to work on sales other than large sequencing order. It also took 2 years for M 'kool aid girl' C to figure out we didn't want to fight against our own reps for real time pcr consumables... Nobel prize winning decision I tell ya... If you could only listen to your reps once and for all... Now if you could only get that wasteland group of gene ex App 'scientits' off our arses, we could spend less time explaining 20 useless staff what to do with their time or what a Taqman assay is.

Finally, ditch that Attune POS (how many crapboxes have we sold ?) and go back to the drawing board with Open Array (or stop lying about it) and you got yourself a decent set up.

http://twitpic.com/3n0dll Jus

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Just bringing the revolution in personal genomics to the masses. The masses with genome sizes of 2-3 million bases. There were a few mutations as LIFE's 1000 genomes effort worked its way through 523 PowerPoint decks, it ended up being a 1000 machines/genome project. Ion Torrent fully mets the final criteria.

Foster City = Buh-Bye

Foster City = Buh-Bye

Well based on GL and his

Well based on GL and his rants all over the idiot mainstream media, the quota should be around 200 ion torrent machines per rep... per quarter...

"That post was dead on ! But

"That post was dead on ! But it is indeed missing the part about the divide between field sales and management. Very similar to the new poor and rich divide".

it looks like LT is doing nothing positive (again) but field sales (most companies) needed a shake up. They were order takers and did nothing but whine if they did not have a full deck of already sold customers.Good luck selling all of the ionTorrent and other stellar new purchases for PDx.

Add to this mix the fact that

Add to this mix the fact that LIFE Technologies uses a business model that constantly increases the load on its employees to gain higher efficiencies to drive down overhead and maximize profit, and the cost of this is that core competencies are severely hurt. It is an extremely exhausting environment.

That post was dead on ! But it is indeed missing the part about the divide between field sales and management. Very similar to the new poor and rich divide.

Life is Bio-Rad with a couple

Life is Bio-Rad with a couple more fraudulent patents as goodwill. In the end, both are aggregates - composites and collectors of scientific history with the occasional stab at new technology. Nothing new driven from within - making pennies and beaten owerworked employess - goals.

Funny about the guy calling

Funny about the guy calling me names like "pseudo-intellectual" when nothing I've said purports intellect that nor have my "rants" had anything to do with me for that matter.

Now despite denying it, you continue to insinuate that people who have lost their jobs at Life Tech were inferior and deserving of what happened to them, and conclude with the banality that they must then just accept it. Well let me postulate something for you to consider - I'll bet most of the pople laid off in the last rounds have had one or more 360 degree evalvuations themselves, and I'll bet the vast majority of them were just as laudatory as you claim yours to be. What would you say about that? Any reason you should still be working and they are not?

And I don't think they have any questions about "dim" on those things by the way - but you seem to be rather sensitive on the point.

way too eloquent you must be

way too eloquent you must be an investor!

The best way to look at LIFE

The best way to look at LIFE Technologies is think of it as the Walmart / Fry's Electronics of life sciences with a strong dose of GE efficiencies thrown in. It is not a happy place to work at and its not a helpful place, but it is successful, and it is unescapable.

LIFE 's product portfolio is its strength, and it has many fine products - too many! Its business model for growth has always been - "Buy,buy, buy!" so its employees can never really get their heads around the products and work requirements because they are constantly in flux. Market focus can chance on a dime.

Add to this mix the fact that LIFE Technologies uses a business model that constantly increases the load on its employees to gain higher efficiencies to drive down overhead and maximize profit, and the cost of this is that core competencies are severely hurt. It is an extremely exhausting environment.

It can be exhausting for customers as well; For cost efficiencies, individual customer service representatives do not maintain a specific customer complaint throughout the complaint process, rather, you might have talked to five different people when trying to resolve a problem, and each person only has the notes of the last representative to guide them.
General sales personnel have limited expertise and application specialists carry too big a portfolio to truly be experts. I have found that on products that are not in heavy usage, that with just reading the online user manuals that I will know more than the Sales Specialist knows on the product and its usage. In this way, LIFE Technologies is a bit of a 'do-it-ourself" experience.

Most of LIFE employees are good people that are trying to do their best but are generally carrying too much load to be highly effective. If they don't know something but get back to you with an answer or put you in touch with someone whom can help, then I think they have done their job well.

It has been my experience that most employees leave LIFE never wanting to return, but there is a surprising significant number that thrive in its mercurial environment as well.

LIFE Technologies represents the model of where mainstream corporate America is heading - higher efficiencies using a smaller work force. It is unfortunate and probably not a good model for a high tech company, where high expertise is generally required and cultivated, but then again, LIFE is also like a Walmart, where efficiencies drive the business.

To those whom would bash others for making their opinions known, I would ask for their restraint. We all have a story to tell.

How would you judge the

How would you judge the competence of a legal department that would pay EXTRA money to include the following claims in patent application:

Claim X. A method of generating revenue by providing a customer with "product" in exchange for consideration.

Claim X+1. The method of claim X, wherein said consideration is money.

...when you are ready to go

...when you are ready to go to war for incompetence ...

There are too many LIFE employees already doing that. Go to war against it...

It's statements like this that are truly stupid. There may be issues with upper management (as there are at most any big corporation) but to say that most Life employees are incompetent, or to even insinuate that they are, is a completely unwarranted statement. I would argue that most Lifetech employees are against "incompetence" and to say anything otherwise is foolish and juvenile.

The constant drivel and sour grapes from past employees on this board is laughable and pathetic. Just because YOU couldn't perform at the level required in a large company doesn't mean that the general population of employees shares your same incompetence. Again, I invite any of you who think you have all the answers to post them up. I'm sure we would all get a laugh out of that.

Get over it, move on and make something of yourselves.

...when you are ready to go

...when you are ready to go to war for incompetence ...

There are too many LIFE employees already doing that. Go to war against it...

As an investor and stock

As an investor and stock holder. I am seriously trying to see how GL is going to get out of this pgx nightmare. That guy is nuts !

I don't think anyone is

I don't think anyone is arguing how bad Lifetech is, we know we are bad. It's possible to be realistic and work in that environment. The issue is really two fold, when you are ready to go to war for incompetence and get only problems for doing the right thing, when the corporate image efforts surpasses any other efforts. You have to admit, LIFE is going through a lot of cash to mask the moral of the troops. I, for one, never saw so much data butchering when they show their annual workplace surveys. The corporate HR catalog printed on wax heavy paper last year was the absolute joke of the century.

Oh well, I guess I'm getting ready to go paint some shelter while on a sales meeting, so they can splatter that news all over their web 2.0 engines. Funny to see so many depressed workers confused between making a difference and getting f&cked by fake corporate citizenship.

Also, I hate working for someone who takes steroids and another who looks like a sex crave maniac. It's just not cool.

And for the rest of you

And for the rest of you detractors, welcome to capitalism. Stop being victims and deal with it. Or go on entertaining us.

Now that's funny and

Now that's funny and meaningful

insite (sic.)?? Surely you

insite (sic.)??

Surely you mean incyte

Actually, I meant "insight". I was typing quickly and not paying too much attention. Incyte? Why would I be referring to them? Doesn't even fit the context...how dim of you. Trying to be witty and failing again.

I have had plenty of 360 evaluations and have never been rated as "dim". By your logic, since you are the only person who knows just HOW corporate America should be run, I guess you would be a better judge of my character and intelligence than those who have actually reviewed my work history? I didn't think so.

Your pseudo-intellectual rants on here are certainly entertaining, but they don't contain any real substance other than the typical "big corporations suck" BS thrown around by countless others who don't believe they have gotten their fair share of the American Dream. I read the news and industry publications like you and I know about many examples of executives abusing power as well but the broad brush you paint Lifetech (and many others) with is not indicative of organization as a whole. MANY great workers here who are not "dim", not "sheep" or any other cliché you like to throw out.

There is good and there is bad. Deal with it and move on. You don't like Biotech? Go somewhere else or start your own company...or...better yet, earn your way to the top positions and actually do something about it. Until then, you are no different from those who you complain about on an anonymous internet forum.

Pathetic

I know the economy is bad but

I know the economy is bad but this "ruining lives" bit is ridiculous. You give them far to much credit.

Yes and no to your comment- It probably depends on personal circumstance. Key part is no - not to give them too muIch credit there are certainly much better employers out there with better opportunity. I wonder how their culture will change as the economy improves - which it is, and they will not be able to just hire and fire.

insite (sic.)?? Surely you

insite (sic.)??

Surely you mean incyte. FWIW, I'm not sure anyone is qualified to recognze when they themselves are "dim." That can really only be evaluated by others. A "360" evaluation, in the spirit of modern corporate America.

Yes, almost everyone carries on as best they can and most survive at least adequately. Doesn't mean they don't have a legitimate grievance.

And yes, people's lives are ruined. And usually NOT the lives of the people whose incompetence or greed directly precipitated the losses of milllions - hundreds of millions of dollars, destroying livelhoods, savings, future opportunities, etc for many, many people. Like - take Carly Fiorina for example - after she was finally ousted she actually complained publically that she was a victim and her livelihood and prospects had been destroyed. She left with only $175,000,000 in her parachute, never mind the hudreds of millions she banked while she was playing business person. An American Tragedy fer shure.

Well said! It is the lives

Well said! It is the lives they ruin in the process, always with respect of course! Look at the length of this posting, really looks like there is a problem there over 2000 posts.

The "lives they ruin"? Come on now! Being a bit melodramatic aren't we? Are they the only game in town? Are there no other places to work or is Life holding a monopoly on bad corporate practices AND jobs available?

I know the economy is bad but this "ruining lives" bit is ridiculous. You give them far to much credit.

The only one I see talking

The only one I see talking about a conspiracy is you. Projecting your outlook on things are you? I'm talking about the iniquity of "business" decisions, ironically often ineffectual, predicated on greed, incompetence and/or conceit of people who purport themselves as leaders yet act with obvious and wanton contempt for human capital. In fact, truth be told, the horizon of their vision is usally pathetically small and rarely extends far beyond the nearest mirror.

If you work at Life and claim you can't think of many sterling examples of thousands of lives shattered by this kind of pernicious "leadership" you are either very dim or part of the problem. You flatter yourself that you carry yourself around by your own bootstraps but if you think you are not at the mercy of the caprices of vast numbers people and factors, good, bad and neutral, that are far out of your control, I suspect dim is closest to the truth.

I think I see what you are saying now. Corporations don't care about their employees and don't have the meaningful "insite" that an obvious genius like yourself has to make the best decisions for themselves and their workers.

Perhaps you can change the corporate world since you clearly have all the answers? Maybe start your own utopian company model? I'm sure that would take the business world by storm.

I don't pretend that there are not MANY questionable decisions that are made daily in the upper management of all businesses. I have certainly been affected by them on numerous occasions and certainly will be in the future. However, sitting around complaining and whining about how out of touch the executives are and how they are "sticking it to the working man" solves nothing.

I am not "dim" as you so eloquently put it by any definition of the word. I just understand the fact that it's not always someone elses fault when things go wrong.

There is bad everywhere, you just have to make the best of it.

If you work at Life and claim

If you work at Life and claim you can't think of many sterling examples of thousands of lives shattered by this kind of pernicious "leadership" you are either very dim or part of the problem. You flatter yourself that you carry yourself around by your own bootstraps but if you think you are not at the mercy of the caprices of vast numbers people and factors, good, bad and neutral, that are far out of your control, I suspect dim is closest to the truth.

Well said! It is the lives they ruin in the process, always with respect of course! Look at the length of this posting, really looks like there is a problem there over 2000 posts.

The only one I see talking

The only one I see talking about a conspiracy is you. Projecting your outlook on things are you? I'm talking about the iniquity of "business" decisions, ironically often ineffectual, predicated on greed, incompetence and/or conceit of people who purport themselves as leaders yet act with obvious and wanton contempt for human capital. In fact, truth be told, the horizon of their vision is usally pathetically small and rarely extends far beyond the nearest mirror.

If you work at Life and claim you can't think of many sterling examples of thousands of lives shattered by this kind of pernicious "leadership" you are either very dim or part of the problem. You flatter yourself that you carry yourself around by your own bootstraps but if you think you are not at the mercy of the caprices of vast numbers people and factors, good, bad and neutral, that are far out of your control, I suspect dim is closest to the truth.

"Lots of layoffs in R&D, who

"Lots of layoffs in R&D, who needs R&D when you can replace it with a 700M hype machine and a fake Doctor of molecular diagnostic."

http://pathogenomics.bham.ac.uk/blog/2010/12/ion-torrent-hype-cycle-stat...

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

So, does anyone think GL will make his money back on this one?

First off, it's not his money. But no, I just don't get it. The Ion Torrent machine is so far below current specs on existing products on the market, why would anyone buy one? Today, one can get a service provider to run a multiplexed GA II channel for significantly less than 5 figures. $1K for about 500 Mbases of data, with no "read forward" issues to deal with. Current specs on the Torrent take 50 runs to do that. You can win one of their $1,000,000 prizes for getting that down to 25 runs. JR talks about his kid getting a heel prick and how there needs to be a Torrent machine right there to sequence that DNA. Sorry, but there is no reason that sample can't be multiplexed on an Illumina (or a less cost effective SOLiD) today. Maybe there is a very slight advantage to turnaround time on the Torrent in about 0.000001% of clinical cases.

Guess you're a loser too eh.

Guess you're a loser too eh. And yet it is possible to look for another job AND at the same time have a better grasp of the disasterous and destrucive course of modern corporate strategy than you seem to have. And while I don't wish upon you the prospect of having no job and no prosepcts in an obscenely high cost of living area, why don't your reel in your contempt and your boot licking tongue, and go to a dozen or so (or more if you have time to waste at biofind when you're supposed to be working) web sites of companies on your industry and see how many jobs are posted. For ANYONE, never mind whether they are a match to your experience and salary requirements.

Please do that and report back to us please. Maybe you have a career in store as an outplacement vulture taking the thousands of dollars per capita that your "beneficent" corporations are willing to spend to assuage their guilt by pretending to provide a valuable service but which have never provided an actual benefit to any of the poor slobs they have ruined.

Sure thing Mr. Doom and Gloom! I'll get that report right out to you. I'm sure you are feeling quite smug with your anti-corporate rantings. Whatever...

Fear mongering idiots like yourself make things so much worse for everyone else.

I do feel empathy and

I do feel empathy and compassion for people out of work, just not for the ones who post up here complaining about some dark conspiracy behind the scene blaming the world and corporate America for their problems. Just for the record - People who get laid off are not losers, just the people who whine about it and complain while not trying to fix the situation are. Very simple. We make our own destiny - not others. Biotech is no different from any other business and is not to blame.

"Lots of layoffs in R&D, who

"Lots of layoffs in R&D, who needs R&D when you can replace it with a 700M hype machine and a fake Doctor of molecular diagnostic."

http://pathogenomics.bham.ac.uk/blog/2010/12/ion-torrent-hype-cycle-stat...

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So, does anyone think GL will make his money back on this one?

LIFE is a bunch of bean

LIFE is a bunch of bean counters trying to run a technology organization, never has worked and never will.

LHH eh? Now there is the

LHH eh? Now there is the solution. LHH the new corporate sleep remedy for the corporate HR "professionals"

Guess you're a loser too eh.

Guess you're a loser too eh. And yet it is possible to look for another job AND at the same time have a better grasp of the disasterous and destrucive course of modern corporate strategy than you seem to have. And while I don't wish upon you the prospect of having no job and no prosepcts in an obscenely high cost of living area, why don't your reel in your contempt and your boot licking tongue, and go to a dozen or so (or more if you have time to waste at biofind when you're supposed to be working) web sites of companies on your industry and see how many jobs are posted. For ANYONE, never mind whether they are a match to your experience and salary requirements.

Please do that and report back to us please. Maybe you have a career in store as an outplacement vulture taking the thousands of dollars per capita that your "beneficent" corporations are willing to spend to assuage their guilt by pretending to provide a valuable service but which have never provided an actual benefit to any of the poor slobs they have ruined.

Then I hope you have a chance

Then I hope you have a chance to test the market in the near future. Maybe you'll even get to parlay the layoff into a promotion and big raise. Sounds like an experience you sincerely deserve.

Oddly enough, I have been laid off before and I DID get a raise when I found another job around 3 months later. No promotion, but more money on each paycheck.

So yeah - it can be done if you don't sit around blaming everyone else for your problems.

But you fail to answer the

But you fail to answer the question, Ion torrent = POS at this point.

Then I hope you have a chance

Then I hope you have a chance to test the market in the near future. Maybe you'll even get to parlay the layoff into a promotion and big raise. Sounds like an experience you sincerely deserve.

The guy has got a point!

The guy has got a point!

And if that is the case,

And if that is the case, rather than blame the "Big Bad Corporation", I will go find another job.

My qualifications are great, my reviews are great and there are jobs out there for people who don't sit around complaining about how life isn't fair.

Be carefull You might be the

Be carefull

You might be the next one crying...

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! I didn't

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

I didn't get a raise or I was laid off. Whaaaaaa! It's not my fault for being a whiney crybaby! It's the big bad corporation!

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

What a bunch of losers. You will never get ahead blaming others for your shortcomings.

Lots of layoffs in R&D, who

Lots of layoffs in R&D, who needs R&D when you can replace it with a 700M hype machine and a fake Doctor of molecular diagnostic.

http://pathogenomics.bham.ac.uk/blog/2010/12/ion-torrent-hype-cycle-stat...

the bulk of the people i saw

the bulk of the people i saw let go were HR and IT.... and that kind of makes sense.

with the multiple postings it

with the multiple postings it seems like a whole lot more than 1000. Is that one site or all over the empire?

If your goal is to lose 3000

If your goal is to lose 3000 jobs this quarter and increase backorders by 30%, get TRN back on board ASAP. Offer him anything. He's worth his weight in gold.

"Walking"? I think he was

"Walking"?
I think he was carried on the shoulders of giants.

TRN is gold. If there's any way to get him back, offer him TEN times what he demands. And then some.

He'll work his "Caltag Magic".

speaking of EBioscience was

speaking of EBioscience was that TRN walking the halls of Van Allen

If you enjoy working at LIFE,

If you enjoy working at LIFE, then you'll really enjoy your EbioScience Family of Jerk-Offs. It's like getting under-paid to do what you hate with people you despise and don't respect. Sound familiar?!

Great CEOs are hard to find. Pure Genius.

"So back on 2008 the original

"So back on 2008 the original poster said Synergies=layoffs. Given the wave after wave of layoffs, just how many people have been laid off in this "happy time of integration"

At least 1k+ people have been let go since the integration..
I was one of them and also part of the process....

But aren't you amazed by how that thoughtful and careful process has resulted in such a dynamic and responsive company? One that is daily advancing the frontiers of human achievement? As a customer, I know it will be any day now that the integration will result in some new product or process that I will be able to incorporate into my own daily work. And that new product or process will more than make up for the ones I've stopped buying from IVGN/ABI/LIFE over the last 3 years.

"So back on 2008 the original

"So back on 2008 the original poster said Synergies=layoffs. Given the wave after wave of layoffs, just how many people have been laid off in this "happy time of integration"

At least 1k+ people have been let go since the integration..
I was one of them and also part of the process....

ugh..

Are product being shipped

Are product being shipped from MD yet?

so back on 2008 the original

so back on 2008 the original poster said Synergies=layoffs. Given the wave after wave of layoffs, just how many people have been laid off in this "happy time of integration"

Today is effectively the last

Today is effectively the last day of Life in Camarillo. Very small skeleton crew is left to gut the facilities and finish clearing out the warehouse.

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