LIFE had some lay-offs in the last couple weeks to make the numbers look better by the end of Q1.
What locations were affected during these lay-offs? How significant was the impact?

moving ion torrent is really not much, its a tiny lab in SSF, who cares, it's irrelevant, short term lease is probably much simpler right now. Why fuck something up when the heat is on... However if I were in SSF I would be really worried about the cubicle-powerpoint meetings going on in FC behind IT backs...

Moving IT is irrelevant to me compared to the Invitrogen idiots rearing their heads to slow down consumable, technical and manufacturing support.

here is your news on Tuesday: We are not moving. Get back to work.

Meeting on Tues to learn the fate of FC...rumor is Bay Area will reconcile all sites in South SF close or at Ion Torrent.

The only way is down, both for IP and margins since they did not try to keep that market share properly. Unless they have completely overhauled the synthesis SOPs. Last time I checked they were using expensive slow tech for synthesis (ie, old 3900... hahahah).

There is almost no internal investment in that market right now. Cut cut cut, every dollar going to Ian Da Tarent. Only dollars going to consumables is via real time monitoring of orders such as Ipads with internal stock purchase IT software, so every crony has an Ipad even if most still think its a run rate and regional business (dear sir, we expect another 20 TLDA order from you this month since we see you ordered them exactly the same day last year... failure to do so will increase by 10% your pricing and shipping charges). Then 1 week before quarter end, they drop their pants and bend over (we have to stop this hockey effect, said a wise junior manager)...

enough with the instrument side. does anyone have any news on the consumables side...like pcr products taqman assays?

You got an Attune ! Of course your rep will say its great, they will fire him if he doesn't sell it. That unit must have been stocked since last year... I think globally Attune is probably more useful than Biotrove, that is one serious piece of junk... Life tech, if you ask an order by the last two weeks of a quarter, you can expect massive discounts, for anything... Remember this next June, you can seriously save 20 to 60% off your current quote. Buy in bulk, don't have them set you up in a stream (or supply freezer) or they will screw you.

Where is my SOLID I bought last year? Did it float away? Is it radioactive?

I need to go buy another HiSeq, or 1000 Ion Torrent machines to do the same thing...

Yes there is a group in our building who have one, but we dont get along and when I asked what it was like idiot said that he didnt want to be redponsible and that I should have my own demo... How unhelpful!!

70 perc off cant be bad though, lol

Well the rep said its really easy to use... So are you saying that isnt true???

I'm sure your rep could arrange a demo at one of the many other sites where he/she has placed sold an instrument.

Well the rep said its really easy to use... So are you saying that isnt true???

god help you when using attune

Same thing for Analyzers. What are you waiting for? Christmas. If they need to move stock they can do what they want. I'd check some reviews first though.

Did you ever use the Attune, please?? They say its a new unit but they need to move stock. Are they going to discontinue making it??

Can someone help!?

End of Q1 Thursday. Got to sell some of those A**tunes...

Biggest EVER Sale at ABI - UK

https://products.appliedbiosystems.com:443/ab/en/US/adirect/ab?cmd=catNa...

Rep quoted me 70 percent off if I placed a quick order for the Attune Flow Cyt.

My manager thinks I got him a bargain. This is what is happening at Life Technologies!!!! Why do they say such high prices if they can offer so much lower.

Did anyone ever use the attune, please?????

Is there something wrong with it?

Solid doesn't make much money - mainly because they often have to give them away to beat the opposition (Illumina). They basically got schooled by Illumina in terms of workflow, quality, reliability etc. Hiseq was the final nail in the coffin. They barely even mention it any more: - just the Ion Torrent promises.

thanks for the comment on the sinking businesses

i work on the BT machine and you put it perfectly, a lot of the failures were because of mismanagement---most of the people that orignially worked on it have either quit or transferred themselves to different projects.

I dont know about Attune, never really heard of it within the company. SOLID i thought was doing well and generated a lot of money for the company???

The Biotrove acquisition didn't cost much because it was almost bankrupt. The integration however is a spectacle of mismanagement, from product alignment to manufacturing. The instrument still uses hundreds of parts and consumables not made or controlled by Life Tech. The panels are still from SAB now part of Qiagen, the same product Life Tech loves to put down... Why would anyone at Life Tech use SAB assays and Roche Taq for a product is beyond my understanding. Once again, one layer of manager completely detached from the goal and direction. This is mostly because of Life Tech's planning without understanding and milestone acceptance. If you offer a product and pass a milestone, doesn't matter if it is made by your competition. So they probably loss a bit of money. Solid has probably been the biggest money dump, Attune is another huge one (never any synergy found), Ion Torrent is another dump but it viewed as a huge brand uplift and at this point has a lot of attraction, it's just way too low cost and I think life will see a saturation sooner than anticipated profits. Once again, they will see that a human can only handle so much data generation (and library prep !). This is not unique to Life tech, this is unique to idiots who think nurses and doctors will start doing full exomes and genomes in their clinic (as Greg Lucier would like you to think), that vision will cost them.

is BioTrove a part of this sinking acquired business?

I understand head of HR and CEO doing the rounds to carefully review some managers out there... The clock is ticking for a few of them because they are simply destroying acquired business instead of creating growth.

everyone should just ignore this clown.....he or she seems to feel the need to comment on every post (seriously, who does this?) and for some reason, is pathologically incapable of making a sound, persuasive counter-argument to the point at hand. obviously here to dilute the conversation."

Hey Jacka$$ - more than one person posting here. Many more.

Swinging away at ghosts are we?

stock is flat to minus since one year, there is no other place to go than acquisition and the last one is going to be a real bitch to grow... Organic growth has never been a GL model, he doesn't know how to do that. His last move I think is deadly because it is to fix a major issue, the fact that Life got pounded in NGS.

Nope. I doubt many others truly have either.
Of course, you must remember...it's always someone else's fault. Right?

everyone should just ignore this clown.....he or she seems to feel the need to comment on every post (seriously, who does this?) and for some reason, is pathologically incapable of making a sound, persuasive counter-argument to the point at hand. obviously here to dilute the conversation.

I guess you never experienced the Ptr Wlch back-stab

Nope. I doubt many others truly have either.

Of course, you must remember...it's always someone else's fault. Right?

"However, it has been a very rare occasion when I have seen someone, a person with "good ideas and work ethic" as you word it, pushed aside and not utilized. "

I guess you never experienced the Ptr Wlch back-stab

No, but LIFE's falling stock price should change everything.

How profound. A Wall Street sage has dropped knowledge on the dirty and unwashed. Feel better now?

It goes up, it goes down, it goes up again. Hmmm, Kind of sounds like every other Biotech stock out there and most any other stock as well.

One again, issues that are not unique to Lifetech. The economy is not doing well overall and it's not because of big bad Lifetech despite what a few hate mongers on this site would like you to believe.

actually the stock price is way up since 2009 and i am making a lot of money thanks to lucifer

irrelevant to the point, but nice to hear nonetheless.

actually the stock price is way up since 2009 and i am making a lot of money thanks to lucifer

You sound naive, co-dependent or suffer from Charlie Sheen syndrome! I hear they laugh at you and use you as a tool for their own success.
how to change your life

Yep. It's me who is naive. All who disagree with you must be.

What a wonderful world you must live in.

Your crusade against Lifetech will not change anything.

No, but LIFE's falling stock price should change everything.

You sound naive, co-dependent or suffer from Charlie Sheen syndrome! I hear they laugh at you and use you as a tool for their own success.
how to change your life

i worked there for a some time and found the place to be an accumulation of sycophants. they were always rewarded for the most trivial accomplishments that had nothing to do with any of the projects.

those that had good ideas or work ethic were often pushed into dead end projects where their skills were never put to good use

i don't doubt that Life has some smart people, but i do doubt that the company knows how to recognize and reward them

Yes. We got it. Sycophants, stooges, toadies etc etc. Lifetech is full of monsters and horrible people.

Understood.

Of course, in general, I have experienced the opposite of what you say. I presume that this means I am lying and/or a "toady" since I disagree with your eloquent bitching.

I certainly have seen some injustice during my time here, but that is true of all the places I have worked. However, it has been a very rare occasion when I have seen someone, a person with "good ideas and work ethic" as you word it, pushed aside and not utilized. In fact, at the site I work at, you don't seem to advance very far unless you work hard and are involved in projects to improve process flow or save money. Some people are comfortable just drawing a paycheck and working in the lab while others want more responsibility. You can choose to do better or not. It's in your hands and I have not seen that unspeakable evil that you describe in every damn post.

Again, there are exceptions but those people don't seem to actually last very long once they are exposed.

I suspect you will disagree with this and call me a liar or stooge but, oh well. Life goes on. I hope you have a great weekend and don't bore too many others with your obsessive ranting about the corporate demons.

i worked there for a some time and found the place to be an accumulation of sycophants. they were always rewarded for the most trivial accomplishments that had nothing to do with any of the projects.

those that had good ideas or work ethic were often pushed into dead end projects where their skills were never put to good use

i don't doubt that Life has some smart people, but i do doubt that the company knows how to recognize and reward them

And maybe you are in a stable (read dead end) business area and don't see much turmoil ...balh blah blah.

And if you are in a dead end business area, good night Irene when they decide to cut that loose - which is likely to happen some day.

So...to be clear...anyone who is happy with their career HAS to be in a dead end job or is an idiot? If you are smart and bitter you are in a good job and will get laid off for sure?

Your logic is funny. I bet you are a blast to have a few beers with. All bitter work talk all the time! How fun.

Not "must" be but I bet you are...
And maybe you are in a stable (read dead end) business area and don't see much turmoil but if not, there is something wrong with you if you don't recognize and object to the morally offensive way some of the programs and staff have been managed and Affected by people trying to salvage their own fiefdoms in the aftermath of really bad decisions.

And if you are in a dead end business area, good night Irene when they decide to cut that loose - which is likely to happen some day. Your "loyalty" may keep you warm at night but will not be rewarded by them making sure your best interests are kept to the fore in the sequelae.

You are so bitter!

You do of course realize that all these little gems you are sharing with us are simply....your opinion?

Just because YOU think something is morally offensive and are a bitter troll of a person, it doesn't mean that others who disagree with you are incorrect. You seem to have a complete disconnect with this.

It means nothing to declare it here but, I am not a "suck up" nor am I in a dead end business area or job. You seem to have a hard time with this as well. I'm sorry things haven't worked out for you but I suspect your negative attitude plays a large role in that.

I am also fully aware that my job isn't permanent but that doesn't consume my life. I don't think I am any better off or any worse than anyone else and I know I don’t have all the answers. You need to get over what ever bad things happened to you in your childhood or work life and move on. You will be much happier.

Your crusade against Lifetech will not change anything.

"Of course! I must be a corporate suck up if I like my job and think my company is ok!"

Not "must" be but I bet you are...

And maybe you are in a stable (read dead end) business area and don't see much turmoil but if not, there is something wrong with you if you don't recognize and object to the morally offensive way some of the programs and staff have been managed and Affected by people trying to salvage their own fiefdoms in the aftermath of really bad decisions.

And if you are in a dead end business area, good night Irene when they decide to cut that loose - which is likely to happen some day. Your "loyalty" may keep you warm at night but will not be rewarded by them making sure your best interests are kept to the fore in the sequelae.

Don't you thinkhe meant to effect a change - ie., to cause it to happen and not affect a change - i.e., to to influence the properties of an existing change? Yes of course he did.

Nope. I would guess that the original post meant to "influence" change in general within the organization rather than lay out a specific change that would be "caused" by an individual.

Of course, this will fall on deaf ears to those who have nothing better to do than pick on grammar when they can't make their points properly.

Carry on and make sure the tinfoil hat is on tight. Big brother is listening.

Don't you thinkhe meant to effect a change - ie., to cause it to happen and not affect a change - i.e., to to influence the properties of an existing change? Yes of course he did.

"this place seems to be for the whiners and complainers to vent about the bad choices in life they have made and how nothing is ever their fault. Then you have the know it all jacka$$es who think they would do a better job at running a global multi-billion dollar company."

Amen.

People with their nose on the ground pushing the peanut along don't see such things because they don't dare pick their heads up but you know where your butt is in that attitude right?

Of course! I must be a corporate suck up if I like my job and think my company is ok!

It's not possible that someone could be happy and well adjusted right? I mean - you aren't happy so everyone else must be crazy?

Funny

I was wondering if you were going to appear anytime soon to continue your obsessive campaign against Lifetech and its evil rulers.

Welcome back! Don't you have a company to run or something?

And no, I am not "swinging away at ghosts" or any other clever catch phrase you keep using you spread your bile.

People can be every bit as responsible, realistic, pracmatic and conscientious as you pretend to be and still be cheated by corrupt people and organizations. People can be even more effective (though I suppose you would say Affective eh) at Effecting change and still be deliberately destroyed by people threatened by the change.

Actually, jerk, he is correct using affect rather than effect.

Affect with an a means "to influence," as in, "The arrows affected Ardvark," or "The rain affected Amy's hairdo." Affect can also mean, roughly, "to act in a way that you don't feel," as in, "She affected an air of superiority."

One would think someone like yourself, who clearly has all the answers would know this.

hahaha surreal !

Probably not but, I can certainly make things better around me and concentrate on doing my job well. (I'm sure that this is frowned upon by the keyboard warriors on this site)

Also - you would be surprised how almost anyone can affect change if they channel their ideas into the right area/person/etc. I have had quite a bit of success with this in the past and I am definitely not in senior management or an executive.

Or perhaps bitching here will make things improve? I don't think so. Everyone needs to vent now and then but, some of the BS posted here is so ridiculous that I suspect some people truly need professional help to come to terms with their lives and issues.

Do I think I will change any minds here? Not at all. But...it's still fun to pop in from time to time to see what drivel is being posted here. Always good for a laugh.

And yes - I'm fully aware that my job, and most anyone elses, is not secure. Lets get that out of the way before the "wait til it happens to you people" start up again. I have been laid off before and it's quite possible it will happen again. However, rather than feel sorry for myself...I will go find work elsewhere.

But then you're just making up arbitrary traits to insult aren't you.

People can be every bit as responsible, realistic, pracmatic and conscientious as you pretend to be and still be cheated by corrupt people and organizations. People can be even more effective (though I suppose you would say Affective eh) at Effecting change and still be deliberately destroyed by people threatened by the change.

People with their nose on the ground pushing the peanut along don't see such things because they don't dare pick their heads up but you know where your butt is in that attitude right?

I doubt you're in a position to change anything.

You definitely are not the only one. There are many of us who think the same way - we just don't post up as much since we are busy with our lives, families and careers.

With few exceptions, this place seems to be for the whiners and complainers to vent about the bad choices in life they have made and how nothing is ever their fault. Then you have the know it all jacka$$es who think they would do a better job at running a global multi-billion dollar company.

It's all pretty funny and the main reason I come here. There is never any real information, just speculation and complaining from people who think they know better.

We can all agree that Lifetech is not perfect, however, no company is. You just have to try and affect change and do the best you can to make things better.

well said. I guess I am not the only one thinking that.

Yes, yes, yes. We get it. Nothing Lifetech (Or IVGN or ABI) has done in the past or will do in the future is any good at all. It's all junk. Junky junk junk junk.

The public and everyone else must be complete morons to keep such a terrible company with such obviously bad products in business.

You Biofind geniuses sure have the inside scoop. I shudder to think what would happen if you all joined forces and started up a Biotech Utopian company paradise for people to work at. You clearly have all the answers.