They used to be #1 in the US and the world in diagnostics, then their leaders left, the FDA moved in and total incompetence followed. They continue to lose good talent and have mediocre products. And again as they did two years ago, they cut their customer-facing departments, while continuing to be so top-heavy they keep falling over themselves.The most recent reduction of 200 has established Roche as probably the only $1billion organization that does not have a true customer service department, or leader. Instead of going from "good to great", they've gone from "great to desperate".

Your service from Comcast may
Your service from Comcast may suck, but that doesn't mean employees don't like working there. Most of their workers were contract workers prior and had to supply their own vehicle, gas, insurance and then they get hired on to Comcast who has pretty good insurance, a company vehicle for installers, and pays for gas. Not to mention differential pay. Oh, and free internet, phone and TV.
Let's face it, we all know someone who has been foreclosed on. When you visited them during their dire strait did they not have cable or satellite TV? Humorous.
Just bs anyway. Look at who
Just bs anyway. Look at who was named. Comcast sucks
Indystar interviewed the top
Indystar interviewed the top 5 so there wasn't any article to pull.
Indy Star pulled the article.
Indy Star pulled the article. Why????
An awesome # 8 according to
An awesome # 8 according to Indystar. Guess Eli Lilly does not rate
If you do in fact work at
If you do in fact work at Roche please leave. God, you are a pathetic piece of turd.
You best go work for another company that meets your criteria but the truth of the matter. You can't because if you post on a web rumor mill you just have to be a looser, dead beat employee sucking what you can out of them. Got to be, nothing else makes sense.
I've since retired from Roche and find it so extremely funny to view these posts. Retirement has never been so good.
At times i wish i was still there so i could hunt you down and watch your daily routine.
ROCHE IS AWESOME. I still have a family member there who just LOVES Roche.
Who cares about the best
Who cares about the best places to work in Indy! I want to work for a place that is managed well, with growing profits, rewarding investors and employees with that growth. A company with quality products that whips the competition. I do not want to work for a company that patronizes it's employees to get them to say good things in an employee survey.
Roche is managed poorly, shrinking, has lost about 20%+ of it's market capitalization last few years, laying people off, and it's prospects for the future are not good. Investment analysts are rating Roche stock as a sell or hold (very few buys). Do I want to work for such a company just because they are on the Indianapolis Star's top 10 list? NO.
With all due respect to Indianapolis, a top ten list here is about as good as top 10 in Mayberry, when you consider the national market.
Get this thread back to what really matters, not this survey garbage.
Top 15 large companies (in
Top 15 large companies (in Indiana) from IndyStar best places to work
1. FedEx.
2. Barnes & Thornburg LLP.
3. Harrison College.
4. Monarch Beverage Co.
5. St. John's Health System.
6. Ice Miller LLP.
7. Fifth Third Bank.
8. Roche Diagnostics Corp.
9. RCI.
10. The Kroger Co.
11. Decatur County Memorial Hospital.
12. Ingersoll Rand.
13. Indiana Farm Bureau Insurance.
14. Comcast.
15. Community Health Network.
"You think the survey means
"You think the survey means less because it was done by the Indianapolis Star? Moron. It is a Best Place to Work in Indiana survey."
Wow. That will really impress them in Basel. Good luck with early retirement. Moron
You think the survey means
You think the survey means less because it was done by the Indianapolis Star? Moron. It is a Best Place to Work in Indiana survey. The data is from employees and unlike all the other threads in here about other companies, we like working for Roche Diagnostics. Sorry you didn't even get interviewed, but we wouldn't want you anyways.
I was the first to execute
I was the first to execute workplace surveys with Roche (Boeheringer Mannheim) in the 1990's. It was powerful then, it is powerful now.
Indianapolis Star “Top
Indianapolis Star “Top Workplaces 2011"? Cannot wait to see the other tops. Walmart, Mennard's, Burger King. What happened to the Fortune Top 100 Places To Work? Oh wait a minute, that was 2005. Think some areas and departments got left out of the survey on purpose and there was ballot stuffing going on in others.
Folks could have voted
Folks could have voted negative bringing down the review. Guess to many folks voted positive making Roche a good place to work.
"Top Workplaces program is based solely upon employee responses to the survey."
Guess you should have added your comments that SS should be fired, top Mgt are clueless, bla-bla-bla. Guess everyones not singing the blues like the half dozen who post here from their Roche office. You'll always have cry babies and thats exactly what we have here, CRY BABIES.
But not a mention of the
But not a mention of the continuous email drive internally at roche to "get out the vote". This was done even to a point of "reminding you to vote". Roche knows who you are and continually pressured you to vote in this survey. Ergo, the survey has no factual or scientific basis and is meaningless.
On Sunday, April 17, the
On Sunday, April 17, the Indianapolis Star is publishing “Top Workplaces 2011” – a list of the best places to work in the Central Indiana region. We are delighted to let you know that Roche Diagnostics has been named to the list! This Sunday, you will be able to see Roche included in this special section of the Indianapolis Star and online at indystar.com.
The evaluation for the Top Workplaces program is based solely upon employee responses to the survey that was distributed in late 2010. We had 3,173 responses to the survey – a very strong 75.2% response rate.
Thank you for taking the time to make your voice heard in our community that Roche is a great place to work! It is because of you and the pride you exhibit in working daily to improve the lives of patients that Roche has earned a place on this list of local Top Workplaces for 2011.
Just gotta cut more costs...
Just gotta cut more costs...
This is
This is "organizational/operational excellence"
Reports are coming in that
Reports are coming in that another quarter of SS leadership is yielding continued value destruction. Expecting Roche to report the week that there was ~7% decline in Q1 YOY sales!
Seems like SS big spends on Genetech and Ventana are really paying off! SS still has a job but his "strategic moves" are costing thousands of others their job. Come on Roche board-get with the program-SS has to go!
Yeah, you are right. 30-35%
Yeah, you are right.
30-35% field force turnover is always a sign of a happening gig.
Leadership leaving another.
Pete missing the US sales number another.
Ex Us results covered Pete's sales shortfall, which is only beginning with Leica getting more organized.
All in all, you are right and that is why you will see anyone who is a player bolt as their 3 year lock up expires.
You really should have known....
HM has gone to Genmark to
HM has gone to Genmark to again work with CG. They will flip this company within 6 years and move on to the next scam. Ventana worth 3.4B? Only a joke if you didn't have Ventana stock prior to the grift... Buy Genmark! You can rest assured that the street loves these two and that CG has done his homework. Everyone here at Ventana is in on the spin. The local buying block will have a lot of familiar faces.
Ventana's day has come and gone. Anyone who has had the dipleasure of working here knows this. I wouldn't work for another company that these two magicians have conjured but I will continue to put every available dollar behind their next act.
HM wasn't a CEO, he was the
HM wasn't a CEO, he was the global business area head of Ventana. A small difference. His decision to pursue an opportunity outside of Roche is not some big secret and there was an announcement wishing him the best and highlighting his contributions. And the idea of an exodus? Yeah, double digit growth, #1 market share, and outstanding benefits are usually something that makes people want to high tail it and run.
Are Euros the only ones
Are Euros the only ones posting?
What about HM quitting his CEO post at Ventana Roche?
What about an exodus at Ventana as the 3 year lock up expires?
Like anyone in the US has any input at the executive level like you portray-Please.
MMC? Who cares, she has been
MMC? Who cares, she has been removed as a person of influence and power. Move on to the other "want-to-bees"
Roche share price has had
Roche share price has had nice comeback lately based on positive Pharma news...might buy SS some breathing room.
Where is MMc these days? did
Where is MMc these days? did she leave for Roche Intrument Center or was she let go after discovery of all the "ghosts in the closet" that she created with the RDC supply chain?
Ever hear the one about the
Ever hear the one about the Roche Indy Packaging manager that got caught with an employee in the closet? I have heard rumors, and this is the rumor mill. Please enlighten us.
I'm not impressed with SS.
I'm not impressed with SS. If there isn't a script I'm not sure that he would know what to say. Genentech was a gamble and it might take awhile to see dividends on that. The future is brighter in diagnostics, but pharma has an uphill battle, just like the rest of pharma.
Are these the main reasons to
Are these the main reasons to keep SS?
-16% annual return on stock since he took over
Employee morale in the tank
Successfully fractured the family voting block
Had multiple new board members added in 2011 because he needs training wheels to run a company.
Hello? Is anyone home at the Roche group? Fire SS - It is long overdue!
the big news last week is
the big news last week is that the Hoffman LaRoche family no longer owns a majority interest, with the defection of one of the family members who owned 5%.
Expect SS to be ousted first, and for the company to be sold to Novartis after that.
Members of the family are really upset with the direction and performance of Roche the last few years. Novartis still owns 33% of the shares of Roche, and can buy more at a discount with Roche's bad performance.
How many Roche flunkies does
How many Roche flunkies does it take to complete a Blue Sheet?
How's that Operational
How's that Operational Excellence working for you?
Lol, cute. I figure the guy
Lol, cute. I figure the guy could have simply said, "/bump" but he wanted to add more info. I have come to the conclusion that the siemens guy is either 1. a kid who's dad works for Siemens, or 2. English is not his first language. It has been painfully entertaining for me, but to even remotely think this has anything to do with selling is more hilarious. Anyone who reads through the "discussion" can find his glaring contradictions.
Oh, and thanks for adding to the discussion troll.
OK. So what does everyone
OK. So what does everyone think of Maja Oeri breaking away from the Family Pool?
This discussion is sooooo
This discussion is sooooo boring...start a new thread or just email each other please...this is a rumor mill...not a place to practice sales skills (although both of you night benefit from some practice)
At least you are admitting
At least you are admitting that the 6000 is much slower than a similarly priced and marketed analyzer. You've come a long way and we are all proud.
So, T is finally getting HS. Another reason for you to be proud. Except for the fact that just about every one else has had a high sensitive I for many years.
Now you are not only slow, but way behind the curve.
Theoretical throughput is the sales rep in you talking! What matters is true in the lab throughput. Roche comes up way short when they are not trying to run 1000 glucoses. Put a real labs test mix on the analyzers and they slow to a standstill.
You do realize that offering
You do realize that offering Troponin I and T is unique to Roche, and you do understand why doctors are switching to T right? If not, you may want a refresher on the difference between the two. Since you apparently don't follow anything in the industry I'll point out that our next Troponin assay is Troponin T hs, not Troponin I.
You're right, the 75% throughput difference isn't in the Dark Daily, it is on your package inserts. It isn't hard math. What you do is you add up the theoretical throughput of your two analyzers and you get a theoretical throughput. That value is 75% greater than the cobas 6000 CE. That means, 1. It SHOULD have been faster. 2. It should have been 75% faster, not 50%.
So for twenty years you tell
So for twenty years you tell the world that Troponin T is better than I, with very few believing you, suddenly you decide to do something for the good of the customer?
What a guy! What a company!
I suppose the lack of speed is also good for the customer?
Keep spinning down the spiral.
Flush again please.
Again you display your
Again you display your ignorance. Roche is not switching to Troponin I. They are offering their customers a choice of T or I so that the myriads of unhappy siemens customers can switch without as long of an educational process for a medical staff used to seeing/using Troponin I.
By the way, why is Roche now
By the way, why is Roche now switching to Troponin I after trying to convince the world for 20 years that Troponin T is better?
Yeah right, that's why 4 out
Yeah right, that's why 4 out of the top 5 top cardiac hospitals(U.S. News and World Report) use Roche. Maybe 5 out of 5 because I don't know what the Texas Heart Institute at St Luke's uses.
Once again change the
Once again change the subject.
This time, make stuff up. The 75% number you
keep referring to is not in the dark report, you're
just writing fiction.
As far as a cardiac event, look at the dark report it shows Na variability only, but as the lytes are run concurrently the variability of lytes is far superior on the versacell.
As far as troponin, the 17 minute troponin on the centaur is high sensitive and a market leader.
Since the Stat portion of the 6000 is useless, you're looking at a long tat for those cardiac tests.
Your cute comments on market share do not address the issue, but you are quite the wordsmith, only the facts don't bear you out.
Keep clowning around with your low market share and SLOW analyzer.
You can see where it's gotten you so far, just part of the Roche downward spiral. Like other things that disappear in a downward spiral, so will you, hopefully sooner rather than later.
Flush!
You have a weird perception
You have a weird perception of slow, but since you failed to address the fact that in the Dark Daily report the Versacell had a 75% greater throughput but only succeeded at a 50% faster TAT, I'll ignore your feeble attempts to stay on that topic. I'll say one thing, if I had a suspected heart attack and needed results fast, I hope my hospital has cobas analyzers, because no matter how you twist it I'll get my results fastest on a cobas and not have to sacrifice range or sensitivity.
However, since you also like to talk market share, I'll address that. I guess you're right, customers must have been speaking with their wallets, but that was probably when they bought their analyzers from Dade, DPC or Bayer. Not everyone can BUY the #1 market share, but Siemens did and it has been a disaster. That isn't really something to brag about. I can see the sales pitch now, "We have the number one market share! So lets see, with your analyzer purchase you'd need 8 training slots for 2 people and will have to send them to training sites for a combined month off of work. Why? Oh, because none of our analyzers have a uniform interface, results, reagents or maintenance and they'll have to be trained on all of them, but hey we're #1!! Oh, you changed your mind?"
Because I shut my computer
Because I shut my computer off and went off to watch basketball. Some of us have a life.
You must be in sales as you've taken a question of speed and addressed everything from capacity to market share. Losing all arguments along the way.
Address the original issue. The 6000 is a very slow analyzer when compared to other analyzers of the same ilk. Same market and price, and the 6000 proves to be SLOW.
Why did the siemens guy get
Why did the siemens guy get so quiet?
Again you're missing the
Again you're missing the point. If you have to maintain thousands of instruments to do very little volume that collectively results in a large volume you are substantially less profitable than you would be if you performed a large testing volume on substantially fewer instruments. If you had any business accumen you would know that. By the way, you never did respond to the issue of Siemens not being the primary chemistry, immunoassay or automation vendor with any of the top 5 and I don't know if you even are the primary in any of the top 10. These are primarily very high volume, prestigious, academic medical centers where, wait for it, wait for it, wait for it, quality of results are also important. Go figure. Siemens is a no show!
Keep laughing. In US chem
Keep laughing.
In US chem test volume Siemens is #2 with 28%, Roche is #3 with 22%.
Not close.
In US immuno test volume Siemens is #1 with 44% and Roche is #3 with 14%.Way, way behind in 3rd.
As you probably know, but also probably forgot, you make a lot more money on immunos than running a bunch of glucoses. Even with that said Roche languishes at #3 in chemistry test volume.
So who exactly is Roche crushing? Ortho? Abbott? Keep laughing when they give you the medal for participating.
Tooo funny!! Siemens has a
Tooo funny!! Siemens has a bunch of "installed base instruments" in hospitals that are 50 to 100 beds where nobody else plays. What's important is testing volume per installed base instrument and there Roche crushes everyone. So in the U.S News and World report top 5 hospitals how many of them have Siemens as the primary chemistry or immunoassay or automation vendor - Zero, nada, zilch, none. Go get your shine box!
US Chemistry install base,
US Chemistry install base, Roche is #3, with 15%, just ahead of #4 ortho with 13%. This is way down from 18% in 2007. Siemens is #1 with 38%.Looks like shrinkage for Roche.
US Immuno install base Roche is #4 with 9%, ahead of only ortho with 7%. Siemens is #1 with 45%.
You appear to be very proud of those numbers.
You must have low expectations.
As stated Roche has a very small market share and that appears to be shrinking.
I'll say it again-
Just keep repeating these two things:
Slow!Slow!Slow!
Very low market share.Very low market share.
Customers have voted with their pocketbooks.
Roche keeps coming up short.
As stated below from the Dark
As stated below from the Dark Daily report. Siemens had 75% the capacity, but could only accomplish 50% of the speed. Roche IVD #1 Global, #3 US. Small market share? What numbers do you get shown lol.
Just keep repeating these two
Just keep repeating these two things:
Slow!Slow!Slow!
Very low market share.Very low market share.
Customers have voted with their pocketbooks.
Roche keeps coming up short.
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