Roche Diagnostics downward spiral

They used to be #1 in the US and the world in diagnostics, then their leaders left, the FDA moved in and total incompetence followed. They continue to lose good talent and have mediocre products. And again as they did two years ago, they cut their customer-facing departments, while continuing to be so top-heavy they keep falling over themselves.The most recent reduction of 200 has established Roche as probably the only $1billion organization that does not have a true customer service department, or leader. Instead of going from "good to great", they've gone from "great to desperate".

What happened to the new POL

What happened to the new POL clin chem system they were OEM-ing from Japan

All quiet at Roche... who's

All quiet at Roche... who's running prof diagnostics? Isn't there a new guy?

The clin chem buz split off

The clin chem buz split off in 1980 when Roche (BMC) bought Hycel. You're only 31 years behind that news story. Clin Chem has always been separate.

Ran into a Roche financial

Ran into a Roche financial guy tonight at Seasons 52. Sounds like Roche is split between the diabetes test business and clinchem. Unfortuneately it does not sound good for either businesses. Not sure what to expect next.

I WISH I had been fired three

I WISH I had been fired three years ago and forced to cash out my options when the shares were trading at >$230. Many of the people who left then haven't had to work since or have been able to do things they enjoy.

You are absolutely right! A

You are absolutely right! A thread started 2 1/2 years ago has obviously turned into prophecy! Man, it's a good thing you got fired when you did because you could be in the awful position of having a job with industry leading benefits. Phew, that was a close one. I'll wave to you as you drive on 69, whilst the building burns down around me! It would be more helpful if you did your posts like this:

Competitor Sales Rep
/bump

Wow..biofind.com please take

Wow..biofind.com please take down this site. and let Roche fall as planned. Let the people posting to this site focus their energy elsewhere. Fate will happen. The momentum is not on Roches side. But Let it be and get on with your life. Nothing is as it once was. People and times and the economy has changed.
If you Made 75K you may be happy with 32K. But find your own direction. Roche this and Roche that will not make your richer or happier. Just avoid working for this company and the way of thinking that its unhappy workers has "got it where it is" Be bigger and better so when Roche Indy turns into dust - Hold your head high as your cruse past a pretty green park on 69.

You two have been going at it

You two have been going at it for years. Why don't you two just get a room and shut up! Your focus on piddly stuff is an incredible a waste of time. What do you gain by trying to bash Roche? We don't use Roche in our lab, but we did before we changed buying groups. Roche has good products, and even better people. There is nothing to bash. You are so obvious a arrogant sales rep from another vendor. Didn't anyone ever tell you that we hate it when one rep is being negative about another company. That left in the 90's. I'm assuming you're an old geezer who has been selling for 20+ years. Please retire. This site being called a 'rumor mill' should be just that, not a place for sales reps to try and bash their competitors for made up piddly reasons. Grow up.

Complainers? Is it

Complainers? Is it complaining to question or debate gross ignorance or are you just another management syncophant that's been kissing hiney so long you have forgotten the difference?

"Is it a big deal that Roche

"Is it a big deal that Roche compares itself to cable installers? Really? Yikes."

It is for the companies that weren't on there. Oh thats right, talented people want to work for hard core conglomerates that have no vested interest in the people that work for them. It amazes me at the stupidity that gets posted on here. No wonder you complainers were laid off or soon will be and can't get another job.

Lilly isn't worried about

Lilly isn't worried about being on the Top 10 list of best employers in Indy. They'd be worried about being best pharma nationally or internationally... but with the pipeline issues and big layoffs, it's really not going to be on anyone's list anyway. Is it a big deal that Roche compares itself to cable installers? Really? Yikes.

It tough out there and will

It tough out there and will be few a few yrs yet.

4/19/2011-Health care giant Johnson & Johnson said Tuesday its sales rebounded but its profit dropped 23 percent in the first quarter.

4/18/2011- Drugmaker Eli Lilly and Co.'s first-quarter profit fell 15 percent.

I guess both these CEO's should be let go too along with most company CEO's. Most companies are still struggling and will continue to struggle in this economy.

For what it's worth, found

For what it's worth, found it.

http://www.indystar.com/comments/article/20110417/BUSINESS/304170001/Wor...

Your service from Comcast may

Your service from Comcast may suck, but that doesn't mean employees don't like working there. Most of their workers were contract workers prior and had to supply their own vehicle, gas, insurance and then they get hired on to Comcast who has pretty good insurance, a company vehicle for installers, and pays for gas. Not to mention differential pay. Oh, and free internet, phone and TV.

Let's face it, we all know someone who has been foreclosed on. When you visited them during their dire strait did they not have cable or satellite TV? Humorous.

Just bs anyway. Look at who

Just bs anyway. Look at who was named. Comcast sucks

Indystar interviewed the top

Indystar interviewed the top 5 so there wasn't any article to pull.

Indy Star pulled the article.

Indy Star pulled the article. Why????

An awesome # 8 according to

An awesome # 8 according to Indystar. Guess Eli Lilly does not rate

If you do in fact work at

If you do in fact work at Roche please leave. God, you are a pathetic piece of turd.

You best go work for another company that meets your criteria but the truth of the matter. You can't because if you post on a web rumor mill you just have to be a looser, dead beat employee sucking what you can out of them. Got to be, nothing else makes sense.

I've since retired from Roche and find it so extremely funny to view these posts. Retirement has never been so good.

At times i wish i was still there so i could hunt you down and watch your daily routine.
ROCHE IS AWESOME. I still have a family member there who just LOVES Roche.

Who cares about the best

Who cares about the best places to work in Indy! I want to work for a place that is managed well, with growing profits, rewarding investors and employees with that growth. A company with quality products that whips the competition. I do not want to work for a company that patronizes it's employees to get them to say good things in an employee survey.

Roche is managed poorly, shrinking, has lost about 20%+ of it's market capitalization last few years, laying people off, and it's prospects for the future are not good. Investment analysts are rating Roche stock as a sell or hold (very few buys). Do I want to work for such a company just because they are on the Indianapolis Star's top 10 list? NO.
With all due respect to Indianapolis, a top ten list here is about as good as top 10 in Mayberry, when you consider the national market.
Get this thread back to what really matters, not this survey garbage.

Top 15 large companies (in

Top 15 large companies (in Indiana) from IndyStar best places to work

1. FedEx.

2. Barnes & Thornburg LLP.

3. Harrison College.

4. Monarch Beverage Co.

5. St. John's Health System.

6. Ice Miller LLP.

7. Fifth Third Bank.

8. Roche Diagnostics Corp.

9. RCI.

10. The Kroger Co.

11. Decatur County Memorial Hospital.

12. Ingersoll Rand.

13. Indiana Farm Bureau Insurance.

14. Comcast.

15. Community Health Network.

"You think the survey means

"You think the survey means less because it was done by the Indianapolis Star? Moron. It is a Best Place to Work in Indiana survey."

Wow. That will really impress them in Basel. Good luck with early retirement. Moron

You think the survey means

You think the survey means less because it was done by the Indianapolis Star? Moron. It is a Best Place to Work in Indiana survey. The data is from employees and unlike all the other threads in here about other companies, we like working for Roche Diagnostics. Sorry you didn't even get interviewed, but we wouldn't want you anyways.

I was the first to execute

I was the first to execute workplace surveys with Roche (Boeheringer Mannheim) in the 1990's. It was powerful then, it is powerful now.

Indianapolis Star “Top

Indianapolis Star “Top Workplaces 2011"? Cannot wait to see the other tops. Walmart, Mennard's, Burger King. What happened to the Fortune Top 100 Places To Work? Oh wait a minute, that was 2005. Think some areas and departments got left out of the survey on purpose and there was ballot stuffing going on in others.

Folks could have voted

Folks could have voted negative bringing down the review. Guess to many folks voted positive making Roche a good place to work.

"Top Workplaces program is based solely upon employee responses to the survey."

Guess you should have added your comments that SS should be fired, top Mgt are clueless, bla-bla-bla. Guess everyones not singing the blues like the half dozen who post here from their Roche office. You'll always have cry babies and thats exactly what we have here, CRY BABIES.

But not a mention of the

But not a mention of the continuous email drive internally at roche to "get out the vote". This was done even to a point of "reminding you to vote". Roche knows who you are and continually pressured you to vote in this survey. Ergo, the survey has no factual or scientific basis and is meaningless.

On Sunday, April 17, the

On Sunday, April 17, the Indianapolis Star is publishing “Top Workplaces 2011” – a list of the best places to work in the Central Indiana region. We are delighted to let you know that Roche Diagnostics has been named to the list! This Sunday, you will be able to see Roche included in this special section of the Indianapolis Star and online at indystar.com.

The evaluation for the Top Workplaces program is based solely upon employee responses to the survey that was distributed in late 2010. We had 3,173 responses to the survey – a very strong 75.2% response rate.

Thank you for taking the time to make your voice heard in our community that Roche is a great place to work! It is because of you and the pride you exhibit in working daily to improve the lives of patients that Roche has earned a place on this list of local Top Workplaces for 2011.

Just gotta cut more costs...

Just gotta cut more costs...

This is

This is "organizational/operational excellence"

Reports are coming in that

Reports are coming in that another quarter of SS leadership is yielding continued value destruction. Expecting Roche to report the week that there was ~7% decline in Q1 YOY sales!

Seems like SS big spends on Genetech and Ventana are really paying off! SS still has a job but his "strategic moves" are costing thousands of others their job. Come on Roche board-get with the program-SS has to go!

Yeah, you are right. 30-35%

Yeah, you are right.
30-35% field force turnover is always a sign of a happening gig.
Leadership leaving another.
Pete missing the US sales number another.
Ex Us results covered Pete's sales shortfall, which is only beginning with Leica getting more organized.
All in all, you are right and that is why you will see anyone who is a player bolt as their 3 year lock up expires.
You really should have known....

HM has gone to Genmark to

HM has gone to Genmark to again work with CG. They will flip this company within 6 years and move on to the next scam. Ventana worth 3.4B? Only a joke if you didn't have Ventana stock prior to the grift... Buy Genmark! You can rest assured that the street loves these two and that CG has done his homework. Everyone here at Ventana is in on the spin. The local buying block will have a lot of familiar faces.

Ventana's day has come and gone. Anyone who has had the dipleasure of working here knows this. I wouldn't work for another company that these two magicians have conjured but I will continue to put every available dollar behind their next act.

HM wasn't a CEO, he was the

HM wasn't a CEO, he was the global business area head of Ventana. A small difference. His decision to pursue an opportunity outside of Roche is not some big secret and there was an announcement wishing him the best and highlighting his contributions. And the idea of an exodus? Yeah, double digit growth, #1 market share, and outstanding benefits are usually something that makes people want to high tail it and run.

Are Euros the only ones

Are Euros the only ones posting?
What about HM quitting his CEO post at Ventana Roche?
What about an exodus at Ventana as the 3 year lock up expires?
Like anyone in the US has any input at the executive level like you portray-Please.

MMC? Who cares, she has been

MMC? Who cares, she has been removed as a person of influence and power. Move on to the other "want-to-bees"

Roche share price has had

Roche share price has had nice comeback lately based on positive Pharma news...might buy SS some breathing room.

Where is MMc these days? did

Where is MMc these days? did she leave for Roche Intrument Center or was she let go after discovery of all the "ghosts in the closet" that she created with the RDC supply chain?

Ever hear the one about the

Ever hear the one about the Roche Indy Packaging manager that got caught with an employee in the closet? I have heard rumors, and this is the rumor mill. Please enlighten us.

I'm not impressed with SS.

I'm not impressed with SS. If there isn't a script I'm not sure that he would know what to say. Genentech was a gamble and it might take awhile to see dividends on that. The future is brighter in diagnostics, but pharma has an uphill battle, just like the rest of pharma.

Are these the main reasons to

Are these the main reasons to keep SS?

-16% annual return on stock since he took over
Employee morale in the tank
Successfully fractured the family voting block
Had multiple new board members added in 2011 because he needs training wheels to run a company.

Hello? Is anyone home at the Roche group? Fire SS - It is long overdue!

the big news last week is

the big news last week is that the Hoffman LaRoche family no longer owns a majority interest, with the defection of one of the family members who owned 5%.

Expect SS to be ousted first, and for the company to be sold to Novartis after that.

Members of the family are really upset with the direction and performance of Roche the last few years. Novartis still owns 33% of the shares of Roche, and can buy more at a discount with Roche's bad performance.

How many Roche flunkies does

How many Roche flunkies does it take to complete a Blue Sheet?

How's that Operational

How's that Operational Excellence working for you?

Lol, cute. I figure the guy

Lol, cute. I figure the guy could have simply said, "/bump" but he wanted to add more info. I have come to the conclusion that the siemens guy is either 1. a kid who's dad works for Siemens, or 2. English is not his first language. It has been painfully entertaining for me, but to even remotely think this has anything to do with selling is more hilarious. Anyone who reads through the "discussion" can find his glaring contradictions.

Oh, and thanks for adding to the discussion troll.

OK. So what does everyone

OK. So what does everyone think of Maja Oeri breaking away from the Family Pool?

This discussion is sooooo

This discussion is sooooo boring...start a new thread or just email each other please...this is a rumor mill...not a place to practice sales skills (although both of you night benefit from some practice)

At least you are admitting

At least you are admitting that the 6000 is much slower than a similarly priced and marketed analyzer. You've come a long way and we are all proud.
So, T is finally getting HS. Another reason for you to be proud. Except for the fact that just about every one else has had a high sensitive I for many years.
Now you are not only slow, but way behind the curve.
Theoretical throughput is the sales rep in you talking! What matters is true in the lab throughput. Roche comes up way short when they are not trying to run 1000 glucoses. Put a real labs test mix on the analyzers and they slow to a standstill.

You do realize that offering

You do realize that offering Troponin I and T is unique to Roche, and you do understand why doctors are switching to T right? If not, you may want a refresher on the difference between the two. Since you apparently don't follow anything in the industry I'll point out that our next Troponin assay is Troponin T hs, not Troponin I.

You're right, the 75% throughput difference isn't in the Dark Daily, it is on your package inserts. It isn't hard math. What you do is you add up the theoretical throughput of your two analyzers and you get a theoretical throughput. That value is 75% greater than the cobas 6000 CE. That means, 1. It SHOULD have been faster. 2. It should have been 75% faster, not 50%.

So for twenty years you tell

So for twenty years you tell the world that Troponin T is better than I, with very few believing you, suddenly you decide to do something for the good of the customer?
What a guy! What a company!
I suppose the lack of speed is also good for the customer?
Keep spinning down the spiral.
Flush again please.

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