That is rubbish that MT is financing Vela Diagnostics by himself or his family (he must have posted that himself). Vela has investors (M ... AG) that are now ready to pull the plug as MT has failed to produce products. He is trying to source cheap products from India and China to put together his whole business which everything is OEM anyway. He failed to create anything other than buying things, slapping a Vela sticker on it and trying to con customers into buying it when they are better off buying it from the original manufacturer directly.

So true. And they do nothing to hide the fact, either. Don't forget the recent news of one such person who's wife is not serving 8 years for stealing.

"... most Roche managers are lazy - they hire their buddies and all come to work drunk or high!! Do random drug testing and you will see where the problem is!!!!!!! it is not the workers it is management.

You have Automotive engineers trying to produce a diabetes strip. thats like giving a whale a tic-tack!!!! this site is funny to me! keep it comming!!!"

This is so very true.

I agree!

Well, now what? Is Illumina off the hook? And does Roche-454 breathe a sigh of relief? What's the next shoe to fall? Does the company trim more internally or wait a few months for another stab at ILMNA? And when does DOD's picture come off the investors page and SS goes up as the company leader?.....tune in next week. Same time, same channel.

Unfortunately i don't work at Roche but its competitor. I follow the boards in the medical field to play the stock markets.
Later, gator.

"You fool. . ."

You are one arrogant son of a gun! I guess your "wisdom" exceeds that of the WSJ!

I hope you stay at Roche! No other company would want a suck up as blind as you!

You fool, its all part of the longer game plan. Wait and see what happens. You lack the knowledge for hostile takeovers. sit back, wait and then comment in 9-12 months.
Once again, its not SS ruling the roost!!!!

Here is a quote from the WSJ on Roche regarding Illumina

"Roche’s stunning defeat will have a long legacy."

Just another SS screw up!

Say it ain't so, drugs, no way. Must be in the Netherlands or some foreign country. Can't be Indy Campus.

steady 5% down every day since they went cold, why on earth ILMN is not dropping the pants on this is beyond me. It will feel good. All kidding aside, Roche is the perfect partner.

Mr. Roche, pls walk away from ILMN and that stock will tumble, then make another offer may be lower and watch them jump on board.

I just used a strip, can yall make one now. LOL
most Roche managers are lazy - they hire their buddies and all come to work drunk or high!! Do random drug testing and you will see where the problem is!!!!!!! it is not the workers it is management.

You have Automotive engineers trying to produce a diabetes strip. thats like giving a whale a tic-tack!!!! this site is funny to me! keep it comming!!!

Did Franz give SS the instructions to take a company with a market cap of 171B CHF, invest 48B for Genetech, and end 2011 with a market cap of $136B CHF? So, are you implying that Humer or SS is a moran-or both?

Dr Franz B. Humer is still Roche Chairman and giving the orders. This has nothing to do with leadership, etc. Its how business is run, you low ball.

Have you ever purchased a house at full value? If you did, guess we know hows thats going in todays market.

If Roche is not arrogant in your book, you must be a megalomaniac yourself.

"You need to get a life. I have worked with a bunch of companies and Roche is far far far from arrogance."

Well, it might be Rothberg commenting. He might see LIFE as a 1 trick pony (his pony), but I'm not sure he'd give any tricks to Roche or Illumina (OK, at least not pony tricks...)

So ABI wasn't arrogant and Illumina is not arrogant ??? HAHAHAHA that is so funny.

I agree with the previous poster! I think that arrogance is spelled "roche". True arrogance is exhibited by so called leadership in Centralized Diagnostics. From JP, CB, RP down thru the area directors, the arrogance and hubris is incredible!

If Roche is not arrogant in your book, you must be a megalomaniac yourself.

"You need to get a life. I have worked with a bunch of companies and Roche is far far far from arrogance."

Any customer who deals with Illumina knows about arrogance... You need to get a life. I have worked with a bunch of companies and Roche is far far far from arrogance. Roche just looks at the cold facts, if they drop their offer, Illumina stock drops like a rock.

Simple fact, Roche is a 20 trick poney, ILMN is a 2 trick poney and Life is a 1 trick poney. Get your shit straight.

Love the fact that Humer has needed to step in on the Illumina purchase - another fine SS screw up!!!! His blind ambition and extreme arrogance compelled him to make an insulting bid for Illumina and now the investors, Illumina management and investment community has turned a cold shoulder to Roche.

When will Roche leadership learn that this style of arrogant leadership is REALLY bad for employees, patients and business?

Great reply.....The Roche employees need to get a life

Who is Rothberg?

Or you could go and work for Life Tech (ion torrent), and work on a variation on the 454, and still listen to Rothbergs spin doctoring

I stand by my statement, How ignorant you are.

"As someone who actually knows what the new automation will be like, competitors are going to fall behind even more".

You may know what the new Roche "automation" looks like, but your statement about competitors falling even further behind shows you clearly have no concept of where Roche sits presently in regard to automation. The fact is that Roche has a very small share of the global automation pie, offering completely inefficient and ineffective "solutions" that customers regret adopting. The major players are in the process of rolling out new systems over the next 12 months, so Roche is always going to be out of synch with the market, attempting to catch up. I just hope that whatever mess Roche ends up rolling out to customers is better than the awful MPA - talk about a heap of junk.

"When are you going to tell all these "new accounts" that your next generation automation is puck based and not rack based? Then you can tell them that the automation won't hook up to their Cobas systems. "Customer first", right guys?"

How ignorant you are. You obviously haven't seen any of the diagrams for the nextgen automation; which isn't till after 2016. I'm not denying if it will involve pucks, but obvoiusly your little mind can't comprehend how it will also use the 5 position racks. As someone who actually knows what the new automation will be like, competitors are going to fall behind even more.

" I see with my own eyes the wins Roche is gaining in sales. MANY MANY multi-MM multi-year deals taking from Beckman and Seimens. LOL good times :)"

Roche doesn't win sales. Roche reps walk into customer sites drops their pants, bend over and ask the customer to "name ya price". Little wonder it's good times...

The internal customer always comes before the external ones.

When are you going to tell all these "new accounts" that your next generation automation is puck based and not rack based? Then you can tell them that the automation won't hook up to their Cobas systems. "Customer first", right guys?

Triponin I?

wow I really need to find a new job. I don't know if my bank can handle the 5% raise, the 2nd year in a row 4% performance sharing bonus. I may need to find a new job AND a new bank, because my benefits cost went down too.

Who cares about MT and Vela...JP is doing a bang-up job here. Energized employees, a Culture of Accountability, deadwood gone, good riddance.

It is so funny watching what are obviously disgruntled ex-employees and competitors predicting the demise of Roche. Sorry you didn't stay for the ride UP. I see with my own eyes the wins Roche is gaining in sales. MANY MANY multi-MM multi-year deals taking from Beckman and Seimens. LOL good times :)

Quit whining, bitching and posturing and do something about where you work. Seriously, leave the womb. It's really nice out here :)

If you don't know who NG is, then you don't know RMD. Ironic - the world is full of croney's like NG, either work out how to work with them and get the best out of them, or move on, and move on and move on, cos that's what will happen!

I have noticed that on Linkedin some roche folks have the title of "Business Intelligence". At roche isn't that an oxymoron?
Just saying,,,,

I still have my free Tamiflu!

All blogs have trolls too

Point being, all companies have whiners, deadbeat employees. These employees are the ones fueling the fire on boards. Anyone who has something to contribute to their work environment is not posting on boards, they're WORKING!

Wow, previous post has been copied for 3 threads: Siemens DX, Pfizer and now Roche. What's the point, here?

This thread is so funny for people who work hard and work smart.
The real reason Roche has been so incredibly successful is that they don't hesitate to eliminate under-performing employees. The dead wood are gone the same day they are hired. Poof. Gone.
This site clearly attracts those losers that didn't make the cut.
Suck it, you losers!
You don't make the cut!
Go whine at McDonald's

wow! people at Roche STILL complaining..really its been years and same stuff different day different CEO same sorry products same sorry people. LOL this is really funny Indy!!! rolling on the floor

You must not have walked past the parking lot to the adjacent buildings. Not new, but maybe recarpeted. Old or new, they will be leaving (read 'abandoning') the site. What is not clear is how 2 sequencing technologies co-exist under one corporate roof. 454 technology is history......Roche would not move on Illumina if this was not the case. Sorry 454, your days are numbered. If you were Swiss and had the choice.....would you choose Branford or San Diego. Duh!

"Someone called 454 a garage operation"

If its in print it must be true, RIGHT. 454 in CT is a brand new building. Been there.

Maybe So. But whatever remains of 454 after Roche has its way with Illumina will certainly be moved to CA. Someone called 454 a garage operation...that was generous. Now it's just the echo of a bad, really bad, BUSINESS decision. Maybe a billion or 2 wasted there but alot more will be spent to fix the mess and access the diagnostic sequencing market in style. If I hear one more person speak of how smart Roche is or how disciplined it is in making BUSINESS decisions, I'm gonna puke.

"RAS HQ will move from Indy to CA"

Duh, they are not moving. The purchase has not even been made yet. If it does, that will take approx 9-12 months. READ MY LIPS.....No one from Indianapolis is moving to CA. How do you folks come up with this news. you panic for nothing.

If everyone new the Roche women (most married) that MT snogged you'd all die. The respective ladies' husbands would probably cry. You biddies sound like a bunch of school girls. If things are so bad, find a new place to complain about.

Remember that MT's assignment was to close Indianapolis and move operations to Nutly, NJ. There is a reason that they call it Indianoplace. He realized that it would take ~$1B to close it and move and he didn't see the ROI. So all of you still working in Indy, keep bitching about MT.

business is about making money, not catering to the human spirit or job insecurities. Get with it or go to academia where it will change next.

Severin is managing to build a motivational environment once again. Really nice for the employees of RAS to find out via a press release that RAS HQ will move from Indy to CA with the proposed Illumina purchase. He really treats employees like expendible and or shippable items.

Severin the Terrible-all hail to Severin or he will move your family, or take away your job too!

Funny. This is the Nano I was referring to:

The FDA has given Roche the go-ahead to market its Accu-Chek® Nano SmartView blood glucose monitoring system. The Nano, which uses Accu-Chek SmartView test strips, will be available to US consumers within the first half of this year. It is part of the same product line as the Accu-Chek Aviva Nano and Accu-Chek Performa Nano systems, which Roche has already launched in several overseas markets.