Roche Diagnostics downward spiral

They used to be #1 in the US and the world in diagnostics, then their leaders left, the FDA moved in and total incompetence followed. They continue to lose good talent and have mediocre products. And again as they did two years ago, they cut their customer-facing departments, while continuing to be so top-heavy they keep falling over themselves.The most recent reduction of 200 has established Roche as probably the only $1billion organization that does not have a true customer service department, or leader. Instead of going from "good to great", they've gone from "great to desperate".

Nobody is mentioning

Nobody is mentioning this?

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012306210003

Which technologies are being

Which technologies are being discontinued in Applied Science? How many people have been laid off worldwide? Are they cutting costs to get it ready to sell or just restructuring to reflect the personalized medicine strategy?

Worst. Troll. Ever.

Worst. Troll. Ever.

"This thread is so funny for

"This thread is so funny for people who work hard and work smart.
The real reason Roche has been so incredibly successful is that they don't hesitate to eliminate under-performing employees. The dead wood are gone the same day they are hired. Poof. Gone.
This site clearly attracts those losers that didn't make the cut.
Suck it, you losers!
You don't make the cut!
Go whine at McDonald's"

Lets see...if this site attracts losers than it works I mean it really works!!!!! lucky we fired you when we did!!Whew!!that was a close one - we thought we hired a smart farm country boy then we realized that you didn't have the education you said you had - I guess you knew someone that had analog internet and a fancy shiney computer that helped you fill out the on-line application and pulled some strings to get you hired. I'll say hello to your wife and kids that work at Mcdonalds (I'll put in a good word to have your wife bumped up to "pickle girl".) Typical comment from a hard working blue clollar who is upset he only makes 7.26 an hour. you didn't make the cut either in the military either. they did a botch job on that scar on your neck....darn. lol

As pointed out. The total

As pointed out. The total lack of diag market understanding on this board is amazing. Especially when it's from Life Tech reps. Clueless as always.

You are an idiot. Does immuno

You are an idiot. Does immuno chemistry mean anything to you ? What about POC or Pharma? That's Roches main biz, applied science is spit in ocean. Of course, Life folks live in a cave, so they know dick squat (was there for ten years) Do you know how little Life knows about companion drugs compared to Roche ? Roche has fucking clin trials on drugs associated with screens. Just look at their massive Athena research for HPV screening. You are so in the dark Lifers. Keep working with that ding dong bow tie doctor. Mr useless.

"I just came back from IND

"I just came back from IND headquarters. Not a single LIFE staffer there and Life has zero diag understanding. In fact, it will be Life's demise."

WRONG !!

Life just hired R. andrews and he brought in his Right hand Man..These guys are Diagnostics Legends...I am guessing they will start plucking reps from their previous employer.

Just wait until they get their hans around this mess..

I give it about 18 months and then WATCH OUT!!

You all can't be serious.

You all can't be serious. Life? Sequencing? Roche is going to fail because you think that 1% of their business is supposedly at the whims of LIFE? Nothing but sales reps and researchers seem to be commenting here, because the lack of understanding of Roche's profile is perplexing.

So true, LIFE has all the

So true, LIFE has all the controls over Roche. Roche is a pawn that LIFE moves whereever and whenever it wants. In fact, it was Roche who is scared that LIFE may start pushing them out of diagnsotics, and buddy buddied with them recently on pcr licensing terms.

Roche has lost to Qiagen for DxS Scorpions and now will lose to LIFE. Count Roche as an also ran - look at the no nads bidding for Illumina. Roche is defeated, start counting more dead.

"I just came back from IND

"I just came back from IND headquarters. Not a single LIFE staffer there and Life has zero diag understanding. In fact, it will be Life's demise."

Dude, everyone knows that Roche is at the mercy of LIFE and the second generation Livak patents. Without LIFE, Roche is toast. the kit patent needs a licensed probe...does Roche have one of those - NADA.

We own you Roche - on your kness and pray to GL and LIFE.

Hear tell that big changes

Hear tell that big changes are on the horizon in CD! JC has seen enough and there will be MAJOR changes at both the VP and the AD levels. Such a suprise! I guess that's what happens when you put a bunch of brown-nosers in those positions that know nothing about the business and even less about leadership and management.

WTF are you on ? I just came

WTF are you on ? I just came back from IND headquarters. Not a single LIFE staffer there and Life has zero diag understanding. In fact, it will be Life's demise.

That is rubbish that MT is

That is rubbish that MT is financing Vela Diagnostics by himself or his family (he must have posted that himself). Vela has investors (M ... AG) that are now ready to pull the plug as MT has failed to produce products. He is trying to source cheap products from India and China to put together his whole business which everything is OEM anyway. He failed to create anything other than buying things, slapping a Vela sticker on it and trying to con customers into buying it when they are better off buying it from the original manufacturer directly.

So true. And they do nothing

So true. And they do nothing to hide the fact, either. Don't forget the recent news of one such person who's wife is not serving 8 years for stealing.

"... most Roche managers are

"... most Roche managers are lazy - they hire their buddies and all come to work drunk or high!! Do random drug testing and you will see where the problem is!!!!!!! it is not the workers it is management.

You have Automotive engineers trying to produce a diabetes strip. thats like giving a whale a tic-tack!!!! this site is funny to me! keep it comming!!!"

This is so very true.

I agree!

I agree!

Well, now what? Is Illumina

Well, now what? Is Illumina off the hook? And does Roche-454 breathe a sigh of relief? What's the next shoe to fall? Does the company trim more internally or wait a few months for another stab at ILMNA? And when does DOD's picture come off the investors page and SS goes up as the company leader?.....tune in next week. Same time, same channel.

Unfortunately i don't work at

Unfortunately i don't work at Roche but its competitor. I follow the boards in the medical field to play the stock markets.
Later, gator.

"You fool. . ." You are one

"You fool. . ."

You are one arrogant son of a gun! I guess your "wisdom" exceeds that of the WSJ!

I hope you stay at Roche! No other company would want a suck up as blind as you!

You fool, its all part of the

You fool, its all part of the longer game plan. Wait and see what happens. You lack the knowledge for hostile takeovers. sit back, wait and then comment in 9-12 months.
Once again, its not SS ruling the roost!!!!

Here is a quote from the WSJ

Here is a quote from the WSJ on Roche regarding Illumina

"Roche’s stunning defeat will have a long legacy."

Just another SS screw up!

Say it ain't so, drugs, no

Say it ain't so, drugs, no way. Must be in the Netherlands or some foreign country. Can't be Indy Campus.

steady 5% down every day

steady 5% down every day since they went cold, why on earth ILMN is not dropping the pants on this is beyond me. It will feel good. All kidding aside, Roche is the perfect partner.

Mr. Roche, pls walk away from

Mr. Roche, pls walk away from ILMN and that stock will tumble, then make another offer may be lower and watch them jump on board.

I just used a strip, can yall

I just used a strip, can yall make one now. LOL
most Roche managers are lazy - they hire their buddies and all come to work drunk or high!! Do random drug testing and you will see where the problem is!!!!!!! it is not the workers it is management.

You have Automotive engineers trying to produce a diabetes strip. thats like giving a whale a tic-tack!!!! this site is funny to me! keep it comming!!!

Did Franz give SS the

Did Franz give SS the instructions to take a company with a market cap of 171B CHF, invest 48B for Genetech, and end 2011 with a market cap of $136B CHF? So, are you implying that Humer or SS is a moran-or both?

Dr Franz B. Humer is still

Dr Franz B. Humer is still Roche Chairman and giving the orders. This has nothing to do with leadership, etc. Its how business is run, you low ball.

Have you ever purchased a house at full value? If you did, guess we know hows thats going in todays market.

If Roche is not arrogant in

If Roche is not arrogant in your book, you must be a megalomaniac yourself.

"You need to get a life. I have worked with a bunch of companies and Roche is far far far from arrogance."

Well, it might be Rothberg commenting. He might see LIFE as a 1 trick pony (his pony), but I'm not sure he'd give any tricks to Roche or Illumina (OK, at least not pony tricks...)

So ABI wasn't arrogant and

So ABI wasn't arrogant and Illumina is not arrogant ??? HAHAHAHA that is so funny.

I agree with the previous

I agree with the previous poster! I think that arrogance is spelled "roche". True arrogance is exhibited by so called leadership in Centralized Diagnostics. From JP, CB, RP down thru the area directors, the arrogance and hubris is incredible!

If Roche is not arrogant in

If Roche is not arrogant in your book, you must be a megalomaniac yourself.

"You need to get a life. I have worked with a bunch of companies and Roche is far far far from arrogance."

Any customer who deals with

Any customer who deals with Illumina knows about arrogance... You need to get a life. I have worked with a bunch of companies and Roche is far far far from arrogance. Roche just looks at the cold facts, if they drop their offer, Illumina stock drops like a rock.

Simple fact, Roche is a 20 trick poney, ILMN is a 2 trick poney and Life is a 1 trick poney. Get your shit straight.

Love the fact that Humer has

Love the fact that Humer has needed to step in on the Illumina purchase - another fine SS screw up!!!! His blind ambition and extreme arrogance compelled him to make an insulting bid for Illumina and now the investors, Illumina management and investment community has turned a cold shoulder to Roche.

When will Roche leadership learn that this style of arrogant leadership is REALLY bad for employees, patients and business?

Great reply.....The Roche

Great reply.....The Roche employees need to get a life

Who is Rothberg?

Who is Rothberg?

Or you could go and work for

Or you could go and work for Life Tech (ion torrent), and work on a variation on the 454, and still listen to Rothbergs spin doctoring

I stand by my statement, How

I stand by my statement, How ignorant you are.

"As someone who actually

"As someone who actually knows what the new automation will be like, competitors are going to fall behind even more".

You may know what the new Roche "automation" looks like, but your statement about competitors falling even further behind shows you clearly have no concept of where Roche sits presently in regard to automation. The fact is that Roche has a very small share of the global automation pie, offering completely inefficient and ineffective "solutions" that customers regret adopting. The major players are in the process of rolling out new systems over the next 12 months, so Roche is always going to be out of synch with the market, attempting to catch up. I just hope that whatever mess Roche ends up rolling out to customers is better than the awful MPA - talk about a heap of junk.

"When are you going to tell

"When are you going to tell all these "new accounts" that your next generation automation is puck based and not rack based? Then you can tell them that the automation won't hook up to their Cobas systems. "Customer first", right guys?"

How ignorant you are. You obviously haven't seen any of the diagrams for the nextgen automation; which isn't till after 2016. I'm not denying if it will involve pucks, but obvoiusly your little mind can't comprehend how it will also use the 5 position racks. As someone who actually knows what the new automation will be like, competitors are going to fall behind even more.

" I see with my own eyes the

" I see with my own eyes the wins Roche is gaining in sales. MANY MANY multi-MM multi-year deals taking from Beckman and Seimens. LOL good times :)"

Roche doesn't win sales. Roche reps walk into customer sites drops their pants, bend over and ask the customer to "name ya price". Little wonder it's good times...

The internal customer always

The internal customer always comes before the external ones.

When are you going to tell

When are you going to tell all these "new accounts" that your next generation automation is puck based and not rack based? Then you can tell them that the automation won't hook up to their Cobas systems. "Customer first", right guys?

Triponin I?

Triponin I?

wow I really need to find a

wow I really need to find a new job. I don't know if my bank can handle the 5% raise, the 2nd year in a row 4% performance sharing bonus. I may need to find a new job AND a new bank, because my benefits cost went down too.

Who cares about MT and Vela...JP is doing a bang-up job here. Energized employees, a Culture of Accountability, deadwood gone, good riddance.

It is so funny watching what are obviously disgruntled ex-employees and competitors predicting the demise of Roche. Sorry you didn't stay for the ride UP. I see with my own eyes the wins Roche is gaining in sales. MANY MANY multi-MM multi-year deals taking from Beckman and Seimens. LOL good times :)

Quit whining, bitching and

Quit whining, bitching and posturing and do something about where you work. Seriously, leave the womb. It's really nice out here :)

If you don't know who NG is,

If you don't know who NG is, then you don't know RMD. Ironic - the world is full of croney's like NG, either work out how to work with them and get the best out of them, or move on, and move on and move on, cos that's what will happen!

I have noticed that on

I have noticed that on Linkedin some roche folks have the title of "Business Intelligence". At roche isn't that an oxymoron?
Just saying,,,,

I still have my free Tamiflu!

I still have my free Tamiflu!

All blogs have trolls too

All blogs have trolls too

Point being, all companies

Point being, all companies have whiners, deadbeat employees. These employees are the ones fueling the fire on boards. Anyone who has something to contribute to their work environment is not posting on boards, they're WORKING!

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