Roche Diagnostics downward spiral

They used to be #1 in the US and the world in diagnostics, then their leaders left, the FDA moved in and total incompetence followed. They continue to lose good talent and have mediocre products. And again as they did two years ago, they cut their customer-facing departments, while continuing to be so top-heavy they keep falling over themselves.The most recent reduction of 200 has established Roche as probably the only $1billion organization that does not have a true customer service department, or leader. Instead of going from "good to great", they've gone from "great to desperate".

Hey now, these are the same

Hey now, these are the same people that bought the totally worthless Bioimagene. Roche is getting really good at buying really bad tech!

No they are brilliant, did

No they are brilliant, did you not hear about IQuum's Liat test for premature and early onset gayness? Designed for schools to test their students for gayness in the shower rooms. Its a multiplex qpcr test for the BUM1 and FANi5 genes from whole pube 'pinch and pull' biopsy samples, enabling headmasters to get simple sample to answer gayness indicators in just 20 minutes. The Liat platform carries out all assay steps including sniffing, pinching, tweeking and pulling. Put your pube in the Liat tube and press go to perform the RUO Gay test.

Everyone in the industry is

Everyone in the industry is scratching their head. What did they see in this company that was worth paying that much that we are not seeing????

Roche bought Iquum? Are you

Roche bought Iquum? Are you f'ing kidding me? Iquum is the most dysfunctional, no tech, 15 year money grab machine of a start up ever!!! That clown who runs is basically a mob boss who is Kim Jong-un crazy. WTF Roche? Did you do ANY due-dilegence?

Roche has a hell of a lot of

Roche has a hell of a lot of potential if they can only get their senior management sorted out. The company actually works, despite the lack of direction. It is through the efforts of the troops that they are succeeding the way they do. A real shame that I have spoken to people within the industry that have successfully applied for positions, and then turned them down because of the stories they hear. When you compare pay, conditions, allowances etc then Roche is only mid-range, but the people you work with make it well worth staying. My personal ambition is to stay until our counties MD is no longer with us but i can't see him going anywhere soon. Petty you may say, I probably agree with you but Roche could (potentially) be the best company I have ever worked for.

The pussy is free, you pay to

The pussy is free, you pay to cum with this whore and the shoes stay on.

Roche winces with pleasure as

Roche winces with pleasure as pac bio engages with the 'big boy' toy, its the perfect fit for Roche's chasmic hole in diagnostic technology. Roche wants to be filmed with the pac bio peeping swell out of its ass (looking rather sheepish after so many boo boos). Up against the wall and made to take the whole wretched thing, slurping diagnostic goodness as a natural lubricant. Chin-scraping, hair-pulling, neck-biting gratification for the Ultra-Slapper of the healthcare industry.

I used to work at Roche until

I used to work at Roche until I was told the numbers don't matter. I went out and found a new job with a company that values performance vs. one's political acumen. Roche is a great place to work if you have the stomach for poor leadership that has never walked a day in your shoes and constant change of leadership and values. If you consider working for Roche look around and see who if anyone has any tenure then consider if they are in a leadership role? I think you will find most people have come in a wave and will be gone a short while after. Those with any experience have been shoved into support roles and cannot make an impact. Kinda like the blind leading the sighted. Happy to be out of that mess!

They finally pulled it off

They finally pulled it off and riffed lots employees. RBM's AE's, KAS's and set those remaining up for failure. Maybe they could get together and form a class.
Are they starting to tell customers that the next generation of automation is "puck based" and not "rack based"? They've been telling everyone for years that rack based systems are the way to go. How do they now tell everyone, "never mind what we have been telling you all these years, trust us". Yea right. Thank you sir, may I have another,,,,,,,,,,.

Digging for

Digging for gold!

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/10/23/us-roche-strategy-rare-idUKBRE9...

It started to go bad when Severance Schwann got into bed with the Chinese

When did it all start to go

When did it all start to go bad for Roche? They were so strong at one point with instruments and assays. New Management maybe?

Reagent Building is

Reagent Building is leveled???

who's left to lead? Or more

who's left to lead? Or more importantly, who's left to lead who knows anything about PC?

Branchburg exodus continues.

Branchburg exodus continues. Nick S several weeks ago and now Chad D. What do they know that we don't?

One down three to go with CDs

One down three to go with CDs weak cadre of ADs. RF was a self promoting joke. Everyone is happy about her departure. Only scary thing is who next?

which plays right into

which plays right into Obamacare (cut costs wherever you can get away with it and Dx doesn't have the lobbyist muscle pharma does)

its become a commodity market

its become a commodity market because reimbursement stifles innovation. Next up for the ax will be IHC, as most assays are automated now, so the increased efficiencies should be "rewarded" with lower reimbursement rates (they are in the process of gutting the CLIA molecular assays now). As long as the system is based upon procedure vs value, the industry will continue its downward slide. Diagnostics will continue to be viewed as a loss leader for Pharma, despite the fact that it drives the majority of medical decisions.

Regardless of all this,

Regardless of all this, Roche Diagnostics Corporation still made FORTUNE magazine's 2013 annual list of the "100 Best Companies to Work For."

Looking in from outside of

Looking in from outside of IVD industry, it seems like every company (at least at this site) has huge problems. So the question becomes is the industry to a certain extent fundamentally changed? Is the industry a commodity market that will see occasional "innovation" and is now fundamentally driven by price?

...don't forget merging what

...don't forget merging what is left of RAS with RMD is just a small bandaid on a the bigger problem at RMD. The incremental revenue will not stem the losses they are seeing due to Newgen delays and cost overuns, and the HPV fiasco , which D O'D wrought on the division before he skated off to Roche Pharma. They've squeezed as much revenue they can out of PCR licensing, but the cliff is unavoidable so they can't count on that revenue to save the day.

Completely agree!!! Idiotic

Completely agree!!! Idiotic managers:

Thomas Schinecker, Great example of the Roche inherited political syndrome, he fucked up his last two opp's, Sweden and 454, but is now GM of Germany, yep logical move
Hans Peter Fritton, since 2010 RAS did not get any innovation and since then sales dropped tremendously, he probably did not see clear through his own smoke anymore
Thomas Albert, Head of Innovation of what, and he really thinks he did a great job, achievements? zero
Dan Zabrowsky, thought he did a real great thing restructuring RAS, well Dan you were wrong, Diggelman came in and just did it a little different

The worst part is that the press release talks solely about Branford and Penzberg, by the way the people that really fucked up RAS, but what about all RAS employees in the world that are currently kindly asked to leave.

Not surprised that Applied

Not surprised that Applied Science is being dissolved! No innovation, no new products, and always a bunch of idiotic managers running the show...they cannot compete and it is about time they shut it down.

"So RAS does not exist

"So RAS does not exist anymore?"

There's this new thing with a funny name - Google. Kind of like a library on the internets. You can try to get everyone else to do answer your questions or you can find out for yourself. I like to look stuff up myself because I get such a feeling of empowerment. Try it!

So RAS does not exist

So RAS does not exist anymore?

Which world are you living

Which world are you living in? News on RAS are even on Bloomberg...

Interesting, no official

Interesting, no official announcements yet regarding RAS

Who cares...hear that

Who cares...hear that flushing sound?...there goes Applied Science, next will be diabetes care with the rest cobbled together along disease area lines. Changes are coming down the tracks

Which Jack?

Which Jack?

WWJD= What Would Jack Do

WWJD= What Would Jack Do

don't blame the people, blame

don't blame the people, blame the tech. qpcr is only quantitative to an average. you can't find the needle with average methods.

So wil DD get the blame for

So wil DD get the blame for the multiple tens of millions wasted on Women's Heath (Athena). This was all his idea, along with the multiple ten of millions wasted on Newgen.

Don't forget to include MA in

Don't forget to include MA in the "Diagnostics" inner-circle, although truth be known she never became a full member. Just the same her failures at RTD will leave them geted in the desert and her flying back to Boston with her head down

Roche Dx is getting ready to

Roche Dx is getting ready to restructure! Time to polish the silverware on the Hindenburg. Please be sure to sack all the AD's. PB, RF, RD, and JC are sorry excuses for leadership. Non creative with blind loyalty to all above them should be obvious to all at CD. Do you think CB will find them positions in MKTing? Should be fun to watch!

JP is fake like his boy Lance

JP is fake like his boy Lance Armstrong only with less hair & balls

Do you think we in Tucson are

Do you think we in Tucson are loving VMS these days? JP has sold us down the river to please his Masters.

JP is making it a swell place

JP is making it a swell place to work

Applied Science used to be

Applied Science used to be the least political business area in Indianapolis. Sorry to hear that has changed.

You should come over to CD.

You should come over to CD. They provide you with a free pair of knee pads and a tube of lube! When will they learn?

Roche will ruin your life. A

Roche will ruin your life. A bunch of idiots in management who will run you over. Applied Science is the worst division to work for...they have the most idiotic managers. If you can't kiss ass, then this is not the place for you.

Great post! This sums up

Great post! This sums up the managemnt around here. From JP on down. I had hope when JC came but he has proven to be less then effective even with his braces sporting Admin (what he does is still unknown). Can't wait to get out of here!

To rephrase: The trouble with

To rephrase: The trouble with Roche is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.

Even if the news on New GEN

Even if the news on New GEN were true, didn't we hear that before on many other products? And what happens in the end? Roche will lead the PCR virology and donor testing market also with these products.
If products were perfect, you wouldn't need any marketing or sales people. You would only need an online store, logistics and accounting.

I hear Lance Armstong is

I hear Lance Armstong is working for Forbes these days. Maybe that's the way JP got the top 100 rating? Great place to work if you are a smarmy but kisser. Can't wait to watch them continue to flounder.

Unfortunately Roche couldn't

Unfortunately Roche couldn't even crack the top 100 places to work in the state of Indiana as ranked by the Indiana Chamber of commerce. It's what happens when you lobby to make one list and ignore the real list.

But Roche is ranked by Forbes

But Roche is ranked by Forbes as 'top 100 companies to work for'

Sounds like CB should hire

Sounds like CB should hire you for one of the many soon to be open marketing position. Truly it is not what you deliver but how you deliver. Clown outfits and manicured nails go along way.

It's so bad we are not

It's so bad we are not supposed to refer to it as "new gen"..it's 6800 / 8800
It will work much better if it has a new name

How's that Newgen faring for

How's that Newgen faring for you folks? Hear the cost overruns, softeware glitches and redesignes are causing major financial drag on the entire diagnostics division.

It is you who foolish

It is you who foolish Superman. Cobas has proved time and time again it's superiority in the market. Roche is by far the world leader in CD and will continue to beat little sniviling wankers like you. Great products and a dynamic sales team will all prevail. Best you fly back to your fortress of solitude Superman for your seed of delusion will not root in the world of reality! What a clown!

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